Submitted by
Brent
a Downhiller
from Timmins, Ontario Canada Date Reviewed: June 13, 2008
Favorite Trail:
One Im bulding called " Outlandish"
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$220.00
Purchased At:
Momentum
Strengths:
This is a follow up review. After runnignh the DRS on some pretty hard DH its help up great ...havnt lost a chain yet...silent..works great Best dual ring guide ever...seriously
Weaknesses:
only one that I found so far was that E13 has updated and changed their hardware that comes along with the DRS and havnt changed the instructions. SAo when you put on the slider Plates(spacers) the short screws that they say to use arent long enough to reach the nyloc part but no big deal...just use long ones provided and it works fine and doesnt do any harm wgatso ever(not just me saying this I e-mailed E13 and they said the exact same thing)
Similar Products Used:
MRP LRP Party crasher
Blackspire Dewlie...etc
Bike Setup:
BigHit
DRS,boxxer teams, Custom louis vuitton seat, holz feller crank so on haha
Bottom Line:
Absolutly GREAT product...Neverhad any trouble with it whatso ever
I'd recomend this product over all other dual ring guides out there. Its worth the extra cash to get this one
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Submitted by
Gord
a Weekend Warrior
from BC, Canada Date Reviewed: April 11, 2008
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
Jenson
Strengths:
Well built, sturdy
Weaknesses:
Heavy, expensive, poor roller design.
Similar Products Used:
Blackspire Dewlie, Blackspire Stinger
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Heckler
Bottom Line:
I have used this guide for a year and had to replace the roller twice and the bearing once. Maybe the BC winters aren't the best place for it. The bearing seizes very easily being so small and the roller tends to gum up and stop rolling often. I don't feel that regular maintenance should require disassembling it after each ride. I had a Blackspire Dewlie that ran flawlessly for 2 years without hassle. I now run a Blackspire Stinger. It's the best $30 I've ever spent. Just pick up a lightweight bashguard of your choice to run with it and you've got a great setup for under $60.
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Submitted by
Brent
a Downhiller
from Timmins, Ontario. Canada Date Reviewed: January 22, 2008
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Purchased At:
christmas present haha
Strengths:
Never ever will drop a chain. Light enough absolutly best dual ring guide I've ever ridden
Weaknesses:
pain in the a** to assemble
Similar Products Used:
MRP LRP party crasher Blackspire dewlie
Bike Setup:
05 big hit holzfeller cranks, 66 rv, e 13 drs
Bottom Line:
Greta product if you can assemble it properly. You'll never drop a chain again...seriously
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Submitted by
Todd H
a
from San Diego Date Reviewed: September 23, 2007
Favorite Trail:
nobel canyon
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$110.00
Purchased At:
action cycle
Strengths:
chain rolls perfect, solid, clears mud well, not too many moving parts
Weaknesses:
directions are great if you are a bike mech. need more pics!
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
Specialized enduro sl pro, stoc except odi grips, train king peds, bht 2 tires, and e13 drs(24/36)
Bottom Line:
First chain guide so we will see, so far so good. Directions need some more pics and the web could use some more to. Was losing my chain every drop bigger than two feet. Have not lost it since. Recommend if you don't work on your own bike alot have it installed by a pro. Good for the money so far and sheds mud well.
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Submitted by
Paul
a
from los alamitos, ca, usa Date Reviewed: August 14, 2007
Favorite Trail:
turnbull canyon
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Purchased At:
bike company
Strengths:
chain stays on and bash guard works well
Weaknesses:
my roller dosent roll but I guess it was designed that way. Maybe the weight
Bike Setup:
Santa Cruz Nomad with Holztfeller Cranks
Bottom Line:
It works rally well but the path had problems putting it on so I brought it to the bike company. It looks as though the bike co just went with a bigger bash guard to make it work but I'm not sure. Before I had this puppy installed the chain was comming off like crazy through the rough stuff. Now my chain never comes off even when back spinning.
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Submitted by
Steve
a Weekend Warrior
from St. Albert, Canada Date Reviewed: July 3, 2007
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$120.00
Strengths:
This is a follow-up review, see below.
Bike Setup:
2006 Giant Faith 2, basically stock with some minor mods
Bottom Line:
This is a follow up review. In the last review, I had pulled the guide of my old AC2 and put it on the Faith, and was getting a lot of chain suck. Finally diagnosed the problem. I had the flip-flop roller mounted backwards (ie. large section of the roller away from the bb instead of closer to the bb). Duh...., pretty stupid mistake. Now the guide is running absolutely beautiful.
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Submitted by
Steve
a Weekend Warrior
from St. Albert Date Reviewed: May 28, 2007
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
Ride-This.com
Strengths:
Keeps the chain on the rings when pedalling forward.
Weaknesses:
I do experience a fair bit of "chain-suck" when backpedalling. I've toyed around, and noticed that when backpedalling, the chain will slip off the large side of the roller to the small side, causing the chain to come off the big ring and jam in the derailleur. I'm not certain it's a problem with the product though. I think if I play around with the chainline some more, or the spacers on the chainguide plate, I might be able to get it to work better. Also, installation is a bit of a pain, and the bolts don't fit very well into the plastic plates, making insertion/removal of the bolts a nuisance.
The product is decent, but like I've said, I think there may be a lot of tinkering required to get it running real smoothly. While pedalling forward it's fine, but the chain suck is a pain when you're stopped on the trail, and trying to get your cranks lined up flat before getting on your pedals and dropping in.
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Submitted by
JJ C
a Downhiller
from Poway Date Reviewed: May 5, 2007
Holds the chain exactly how its supposed 2, still shifts smoothly. Since i have gotten it i have about 8 crashes on it and it hasent dropped the chain once, works awesome. Wich i woulda gotten it with the black bash instead on the clear but o well. Makes a slight brr sound when peadling but hardly noticable, and doesnt bother me at all
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Submitted by
Ben
a Racer
from Orlando Fl Date Reviewed: March 28, 2007
Favorite Trail:
Vortex
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$116.00
Purchased At:
ride-this.com
Strengths:
Keeps the chain on the ring despite any crashes.
Weaknesses:
The weight? But who really cares
Similar Products Used:
Truvative, Mr. dirt, White Bros.
Bike Setup:
Kona Stinky
Bottom Line:
If you are a rider that like to climb and then decend, this product is the only one for you. It shifts perfectly, it hold the chain no matter what, the bash guard will take just about any abuse you can throw at it. Any one who says that E thirteen makes crap, is not mechanically inclined or did not read the entire instruction sheet. The instructions definately say to NOT USE MINERAL BASED LUBES. Some people never read instructions. Install is very easy if you have ANY mechanical ability. Plastic bash guard WILL crack if you over tighten the chain ring bolts. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS and nothing will ever go wrong with the product. I personally promise you. I'm sorry for those of you that paid full price, Ebay baby, Ebay...
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Submitted by
Egger
a Weekend Warrior
from Central Texas, Texas Date Reviewed: November 22, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Rocky Hill Ranch, Off the Lip
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Price Paid:
$80.00
Purchased At:
ebay
Strengths:
Well designed. Operates as promised.
Weaknesses:
Bearings make a slight brrrrr sound when pedaling. Bearing should come packed with Waterproof grease. I peeled the seals and repacked with Phil's after a wet ride washed all the lube out.
Similar Products Used:
fingers
Bike Setup:
Giant Reign, only thing stock is the frame and shock.
Bottom Line:
This is a nice addition. Quality design and craftsmanship. It required a little machining to get around the suspension components on my Reign, but in the end I am very pleased with the results. Because I didn't buy it new it has a higher value rating that I would give for list price.
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Submitted by
Road Rash
a Downhiller
from Kamloops Date Reviewed: October 5, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Harper Mtn.
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Never drops the chain. Two rings are better than one!
Weaknesses:
A fairly pricey upgrade - but worth it. Installation can make your head hurt. Take it to your LBS
Similar Products Used:
1st dual ring setup for me
Bike Setup:
Demo 8 Pro with 22/32 Race Face rings&cranks
Bottom Line:
It works - it shifts - it's quiet, and one season of abuse and so far very durable.
Only time it hasn't shifted is when it piles up with mud and forest floor debris. Clean it out quickly and all good again.
And yes, I remember seeing the warning in the box about mineral spirits affecting the plastic, (and that was early spring of this year.)
Bottom line - so nice to have a small ring at times, and with no problems with this guide - why doesn't everyone (non racer - non weight weenie) run two rings?
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Submitted by
John
a Downhiller
from Seattle Date Reviewed: July 30, 2006
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Oregon
Strengths:
None
Weaknesses:
Cracks like crazy
Bike Setup:
2006 Santa Cruz VP free, Fox 40 RC2 forks, DHX 5.0 shock, Race Face cranks and bars, DT swiss 6.1 rims and Kenda Navegal 2.5 tires
Bottom Line:
I bought this bike about 2 months ago and absolutely love it, the problem is this darn E.thirteen DRS guide system and bashguard that was put on it for the dual ring set up I have. Bottom line is it stinks, first my bash guard started to crack around the area where the bolts are, then the chain guide roller brack cracked, then the bracket that the guide roller bolts to cracks. Dang! I'm mad, I called the bike shop and told them about my bash ring and promply put a race face bash ring on, then I started to notice the other parts and found out from them that you can't use a chain oil like Pro Link that is a mineral oil. The instructions say nothing about only using certain chain oils, but I called E.thirteen and they confirmed what my bikeshop told me. I love this bike, but I'm really dissapointed that I have to start tearing it apart and looking for a different set up now after all these problems. E.thirteen said they'd replace the roller and the mounting bracket, but I'm still suspicious if it's going to hold up. I read a lot of positive reviews about this product, but I'm having a hard time believing that I'm the only person that hasn't used Prolink on this system and had problems. Maybe I'm just the unlucky person who got instructions that left out the warning not to use Prolink or I should have somehow known that only certain chain lubes won't make these plastic parts brittle, Bottom line, I'm very irritated
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Submitted by
Alan
a Racer
from hawaii now maine Date Reviewed: May 11, 2006
WEAGLE IS A GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by
David
a Downhiller
from Melbourne Date Reviewed: March 11, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Mt buller
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
Yarra valley cycle
Strengths:
Everything it smooth quite and super strong, a dame good product.
Weaknesses:
None at all.
Similar Products Used:
Truvativ box guide
Bike Setup:
2006 Norco shore one 888RC2X DHX5.0 syncros everything,saint 8 brakes.E.thirteen
Bottom Line:
Just get one i am very happy with this product.
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Submitted by
Tyler
a
from SLC, UT Date Reviewed: February 22, 2006
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
Go-Ride
Strengths:
TOUGH - keeps chain where it should and keeps it quiet. The optional E-type mounting plate was a huge help (I have the fatty 100mm BB shell, so a clamp FD doesn't reach)
Weaknesses:
I guess weight...and make sure to read the instructions! They're not kidding when they say you've never messed with anything like this!
Similar Products Used:
Never used a Dual system before
Bike Setup:
Iron Horse SGS w/ custom build
Bottom Line:
So glad there's such a versatile system available! It keeps my DH rig shuttle worthy and makes it more versatile as a FR/Trail bike. A great upgrade for those of us who can only afford one bike to do it all.
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Submitted by
Brian Peterson
a Downhiller
from Santa Clarita Date Reviewed: February 17, 2006
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Purchased At:
Employee purchase
Strengths:
Quiet, keep chain where it should be, made my dual slalom bike a multi-purpose ride
Weaknesses:
Can be hard to set up if you don't read the directions. If I had read them first, I would have had the install done in half the time.
Similar Products Used:
This was my first dual ring guide. Have used the SRS and MRP DH guides before.
When installed right, this thing works. Very little noise or drag when riding. I don't even notice it while climbing. I have only drop a chain once, but I think it was due to a new derailure cable stretching. A quick adjust there were no more problems the rest of the ride.
I can not stress enough how important to read the instructions first. They are very detailed you will get the set up right first time. I skipped them because I figured "How much harder can it be that then SRS?" Well, those details in regard to set up came back to bite me in the ass. I read the instructions, everything went on perfect.
I will be installing another DRS on my next bike and have recommended this guide to several people. Top notch stuff!!
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Submitted by
Dave Plummer
a Downhiller
from Camarillo, CA Date Reviewed: February 15, 2006
Favorite Trail:
Mcgill Trail Mt. Pinos
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$75.00
Purchased At:
Employeer Purchase
Strengths:
Everything. When Setup Properly works like a charm.
Weaknesses:
The wheel can be noisy.. but if lubricated frequently its no problem
Similar Products Used:
none
Bike Setup:
SC Bullit, 888rc, DHX 5.0, HFX MAG HD 203mm, Azonic Ultracross Bar, XT Drivetrain
Bottom Line:
Very high quality chainguide. works great when assembled and setup properly. the chain doesnt come off, the ring is super tough, and it looks great. I would suggest this product to anybody who needs chain retention and chainwheel protection. Great product. 5 flamin Chilis
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Submitted by
Michael Staples
a Downhiller
from Sonoma, CA Date Reviewed: December 14, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Downieville, Northstar
Duration Product Used:
1 Year
Price Paid:
$135.00
Purchased At:
Pleasant Hill Cyclery
Strengths:
Looks good. Accomodates a dual chainring.
Weaknesses:
doesn't work that well.
Similar Products Used:
Non yet, but will be replacing with something that works.
Bike Setup:
Geminii 2000, e-13 dualie. Sherman forks.
Bottom Line:
All I know is that my chain routinely flops off. My bike is well-adjusted. The chain routinely ends up off the sprocket just the same. It happened during a race. It happens out on the trail. It happens all the time. I try my best not to shift because I never know if my chain is going to end up being jammed.
Also, there is a nice fat bashring but the chain guide hangs down below it, so I'm not sure how good the bashring is if you tear off the chain guide before you ever get to it.
After a year of struggling with this thing, I'm pretty much fed up. I like having two gears up front...but I'm switching to a single chainring/tensioner settup that doesn't have this kind of trouble. I guess trying to build up a "do-everything" bike just doesn't work. A downhill bike needs to be a downhill bike.
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Submitted by
Mike Jones
a Weekend Warrior
from North Van Date Reviewed: December 11, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Severed Dick
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$135.00
Purchased At:
Cove Bike Shop
Strengths:
None
Weaknesses:
I bent this oiece of junk and broke the plastic on the first ride
Similar Products Used:
None
Bike Setup:
Kona
Bottom Line:
I cannot imagine a product so poorly designed being sold in the home of freeriding.
The guy who designed this obviously does not ride a bike in the mountains.
Do not buy this product. It will hurt you
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Submitted by
Joe Kaslowski
a Downhiller
from Fountain Valley, Ca Date Reviewed: October 31, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Telonics
Duration Product Used:
Less than 1 month
Price Paid:
$125.00
Strengths:
Works perfectly, very simple design, solved my chain slapping and dropping woes. The drivetrain seem so much tighter and more precise. Don't even notice a difference in the ability to pedal as far as the guide creating drag. I am sold on this guide and will have one on every bike I own.
Weaknesses:
None so far
Similar Products Used:
None, everyone I know suggested the e.13
Bike Setup:
Kona Coiler pretty much stock.
Bottom Line:
Well worth the purchase price and has made the bike much more enjoyable to ride and don't have to second guess if I am going to be able to pedal or not. It made the whole bike feel more solid because on rough descents my chain is no longer all over the place and I don't have to worry about dropping it. The drivetrain in general feels tighter and much more precise.
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Submitted by
Kyle L
a Downhiller
from San Rafael, CA, USA Date Reviewed: August 21, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Karpiel at Northstar
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Price Paid:
$147.00
Purchased At:
Universal Cycles
Strengths:
Quality Parts, Good System, Fantastic Bashguard, Works with Most Cranks, Quiet, Maintanince Free, No dropped chains
Weaknesses:
Difficult Installation
Similar Products Used:
MRP System 1
Bike Setup:
67 with a Z150, Juicy 7's, WTB Wheels, e13 DRS
Bottom Line:
The price will want to steer anyone away from potentially getting this product. $150 dollars is nothing to sneeze at, and may deter people to look at other cheaper products, like the MRP LRP. Although the price is expensive, I feel its worth every penny.
A lot of people don't have the luxury to own multiple bikes, for those who want to make a well rounded all around bike designed for everything, the e13 DRS is there. The e13 is a mega quality chainguide that comes with a system that never drops your chain, keeps everything quiet, and is maintanice free.
Installation for me was actually quick and easy, I took it to a bike shop. First time you open the box for the DRS, you will be instantly confusfued. Your local bike shop is there to help you, and typically costs upwards of 25 dollars to have it installed, worth the price to correctly install the product if you ask me.
Overall: With my chain never dropping, the system running quiet and mantanince free, theres not a better product out there, sure it may be expensive, but you do get what you pay for. Thumbs up to the e13 DRS.
Value: 5 Chilis, the product is expensive, but performs to its value Overall: 5 Chilis, theres nothing better.
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Submitted by
Andrew
a Downhiller
from Vancouver, BC Date Reviewed: July 15, 2005
Duration Product Used:
6 months
Strengths:
Works really well when new.
Weaknesses:
Not terribly durable. The plastic bits that hold the lower roller on got smashed off within a couple months because they hang lower than the bashguard. I had to fabricate some new ones out of aluminum. Also, the boomerang bends if you hit a rock. A rubber hammer is a very usefull tool to "adjust" this chainguide.
Bike Setup:
7x7 Freeride bike
Bottom Line:
I was disappointed with the durability of the roller setup. The plastic bits don't handle much of an impact, and things get bent out shape. Bending isn't a problem really, but the plastic gets smashed and becomes useless. Also, I don't think it's a very good value. They must be making a lot of money on these, because there really isn't that much to them. $50 would seem like a more realistic price.
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Submitted by
Patrick
a Downhiller
from Cullowhee, NC, USA Date Reviewed: July 7, 2005
damn good product. After i put it on my bike, the shifting was better and more smooth. There has yet to be any chain suck, and is very quiet.
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Submitted by
Steven
a Downhiller
from Jay, ME Date Reviewed: July 2, 2005
Favorite Trail:
Oaf Huck
Duration Product Used:
2 Years
Price Paid:
$120.00
Purchased At:
Monkamoo
Strengths:
Flat out works, quiet
Weaknesses:
None
Similar Products Used:
Mr. Dirt Gizmo
Bike Setup:
Bighit DH frame built up with handpicked components
Bottom Line:
I never had any complaints with the Gizmo chainguide on my Rotec, except that I was limited to only running one chainring. With the SRS I'm no longer limited to a single ring up front. As far as function goes, this is the best dual ring chainguide available anywhere. It is quiet running, and smooth. The chain stays right where tou want it and the bash ring is bulletproof, literally. Would I buy another? Of course.
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Submitted by
Ed
a
from Texas Date Reviewed: May 1, 2005
Duration Product Used:
3 months
Purchased At:
go-ride.com
Strengths:
Quiet - no clatter. Works.
Weaknesses:
Dropped chain from big to little ring before changing from 8 to 9 speed chain.
Similar Products Used:
dog teeth
Bike Setup:
STP1, 9 speed, sram, race face cranks...
Bottom Line:
Who should buy it? Folks who want to go over rough stuff with two chain rings. Folks who don't mind a little extra weight and drag - it is actually pretty good...
Who should not buy it? Before changing to 9 speed this thing frustrated me... always dropping to the small gear... never really found out the true source of the problem. If dropping chains is not a problem that you are experiencing I would not buy this.
Ratings are for a person who has everything adjusted right and still drops chains. Note: I don't fully understand how this works. I just know that it does.
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Submitted by
gonzostrike
a Downhiller
from missoula, montana usa Date Reviewed: April 21, 2005
$ 149.95
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