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Submitted by
walshy
a Cross Country Rider
from Dorchester,MA
Date Reviewed: June 29, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | greenfish | | Strengths: | light,thats it | | Weaknesses: | creaks after a couple of months and then loosens up and all hell breaks loose. | | Similar Products Used: | 99 xt 5 years no problems ,96 xt well that speaks for its self | | Bike Setup: | 05 heckler dhx coil xl mavic wheels easton riser bars and stem x9 trigger xt,xtr mix brakes xt front xo rear fsa piece of sh#% bb wtb saddle | | Bottom Line: | i was triing to get away from the big S. So Sram came in to play as did mavic,easton,wtb and that sh@#ty fsa bb.well i thought it was just the way i installed it, but after reading these reviews i know this product sucks.i was on my dream ride in MOAB. thanks santa. my bike started groaning and moaning. so i oiled. quick fix.60 miles in the middle of white rim and i start pulling pedals and grease them. no good. so i puled crank arms greased them. no good.the bb was not loose so i didnt think that was the problem,but i know there is nothing left to grease down there. i had help from one of the guids and pulled it and regreased and put it back on.that was it. the grit and sand that got in was aweful. sealed my a@#. flaming terds you get 1 for lightness thats all | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Denis
a Weekend Warrior
from Alameda, CA USA
Date Reviewed: June 29, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$82.00 | | Purchased At: | universal cycles | | Strengths: | light | | Weaknesses: | bearings are not the best | | Similar Products Used: | Truvativ | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz SuperLight | | Bottom Line: | very satisfactory overall it did make a significant contribution to shed some weight off my bike which I have upgraded over the years. Three problems: One is that the bearings will creak and will wear out relatively fast and will need adjustments, I use my bike within the boundaries it was designed for and go for long courses in rugged terrain. I do not expect that BB to last more than 2 years. I have now to change it. B- this BB requires care when it is mounted on your bike, very important to not overtighten it. C- the bolt on one side I have never been able to make it tight more than 2 months. eventually it starts creaking bad and needs to be tighten.
Also, NEVER spray water on that BB, it will freeze up after few days. If that happens make sure you check it after 2 days and get it to spin | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim
a Cross Country Rider
from Lafayette
Date Reviewed: February 28, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$89.00 | | Purchased At: | Universal Bike | | Strengths: | Not Known at this point | | Weaknesses: | Fell apart in under an hours riding on my trainer | | Bottom Line: | I hope I got a bad one 'cause I've never seen anything die that fast that wasn't shot with a big bullet. I built my new bike with this bb after someone told me that they had had problems but were all fixed. Well I put the bike on my trainer (as we still have 3 ft of snow here)and After just 48 minutes of light outta shape winter pumping the thing was wobbling like a bent chain ring. I really didn't believe it. Sent it back and am looking forward to using a new one in a week. Will update after a couple rides with that one. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rick
a Cross Country Rider
from Orange, California, US
Date Reviewed: August 2, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$79.00 | | Strengths: | Light weight, return policy | | Weaknesses: | Everything, except for being light weight | | Similar Products Used: | Race Face CroMo, Shimano | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz Heckler | | Bottom Line: | In my 10+ years of serious riding, I have learned the importance of durability and functionality, especially when it comes to bikes and parts. In a brief moment of desparation, I lost my head and purchased this bottom bracket (the LBS was out of XT and Race Face BB's in my size). After just one day of riding on this thing all of the negative things described in previous reviews came true (I don't need to rehash this stuff, just look below). In summary, if you're a serious rider who is looking for a bottom bracket that works properly, you MUST avoid this product. I exchanged it the following week for a Shimano XT (only $17). | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric C
a Cross Country Rider
from N.C,
Date Reviewed: June 27, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | all | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$80.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | light | | Weaknesses: | creeks but there is a fix | | Similar Products Used: | all | | Bike Setup: | not important | | Bottom Line: | used for a year started creeking called FSA they sent new part to fix in two days!!! no charge!!!!! new part has a nylon insert..old one didn't. because of the way FSA took care of me I would buy another in a heartbeat, they deserve my buisiness... | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
A.S. biz
a Downhiller
from Manlius, NY
Date Reviewed: June 19, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | skytop | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$69.00 | | Purchased At: | Supergo | | Strengths: | Light, has bearing lip so an XTR bb mount FD can be used | | Weaknesses: | bearings! they squeal...it's like i'm riding a rocking chair | | Similar Products Used: | race face, shimano | | Bike Setup: | lawill 6 w/ z-1, hayes, etc. Kooka cranks | | Bottom Line: | Don't buy it! buy anything else....those guys are right...the best BB is one you don't have to think about...this one isn't it. It may lighten your bike by a little bit, but I'd take a shimano XT over this. The only good thing i can say is that it has a lip on the drive side so I can mount my Carbon plate XTR front deralliuer on it. I'm going to spend the $20 and make my bike quiet again. Too much noise.... | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
rick
a Cross Country Rider
from arizona
Date Reviewed: June 4, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | light | | Weaknesses: | housing for bearings is weak and bearings suck. | | Similar Products Used: | all | | Bike Setup: | dbr,fsa carbon fsa cranks | | Bottom Line: | Creaks after two rides, and noise is not from the cranks or bearings as everyone thinks, the aluminum housing loosens all by itself. I will be going back to shimano. This is a high maintanence product, if you like that kind of thing then buy it. The best b.b. is one you dont have to think about. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Cross Country Rider
from Seattle
Date Reviewed: May 14, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Three bearing design, light weight, easy installation, easy maintainence, a great deal | | Weaknesses: | lame bearing grease | | Bottom Line: | I gave up my 10 year old White Industries Ti BB to get a shorter spindle. In exchange I got the correct spindle length for my new cranks, three bearings instead of two and no need to adjust side to side spacing. I also got creaking and squeaking on my second ride. Turns out riding in the wet Pacific Northwest washed out all the grease in the bearings. Knocked the bearings out with a 5/8 socket, repacked them with some Bardall and life is good again. Come to think of it I had to do the same thing when my White Industries BB was new. At $75 the FSA is a deal! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bill
a
from Royal Oak, MI USA
Date Reviewed: April 24, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Pontiac Trail | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Light weight - less filling | | Weaknesses: | Too flexy and not compatible with Race Face cranks. to mommy..... | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano | | Bike Setup: | Fisher Super Cal - Tricked with Race Face (free from team sponsor) | | Bottom Line: | Switched from a Shimano XT to this, to lighten the load. When it came time to hammer this BB cried all the way home. I switched back to old faithful (E.G. Shimano)and the flex went back into it's cage. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
KIMO
a Cross-Country Rider
from ANAHEIM, CA
Date Reviewed: January 7, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
LIGHT, TI SPINDLE, 3 BEARINGS, WAS SMOOTH. | | Weaknesses: |
BEARINGS WENT TO CRAP!!!!! BUT SEE BELOW | | Similar Products Used: |
UN72, UN52 | | Bike Setup: |
SCHWINN HOMEGROWN FULL SUSP | | Bottom Line: | WELL, AS OTHER REVIEWERS STATED UNDER THIS ONE, 2 OR THE 3 BEARINGS CRAPPED OUT. I'VE HAD THE FSA TI BB FOR A YEAR, SO I BROUGHT TO MY LBS & ASKED IF THE 1 YR WARRANTY WAS STILL VALID. THE MECH SAID YES & PROCEDED TO REPLACE ALL 3 BEARINGS. NOW I HAVE A REFURBISHED TI BB W/ BETTER BEARINGS, WHAT A BIG DIFFERENCE!!! TO MAKE THIS REAL SWEET, I ASKED THE MECH WHAT THE COST FOR ALL THE WORK DONE, HE SAID NO CHARGE, IT WARRANTY WORK. FAR OUT!!!!!! SO 3 STARS FOR ORIGINAL FSA TI BB, & 5+ NOW THAT IT'S BEEN REBUILT. THIS BB IS MUCH LIGHT THAN A SHIMANO UN72. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Racer
from Minnetonka, MN
Date Reviewed: December 6, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Snail | | Duration Product Used: |
1 Year | | Strengths: |
All Shiny! | | Weaknesses: |
Pitiful bearing quality | | Similar Products Used: |
UN52, 72 | | Bike Setup: |
Jamis Dakar, SID, Titanium Widgets, Handlebar Streamers | | Bottom Line: | I posted the original review on this product in February '99. My BB died 8 months later, the day before the Chequamegon Fat Tire 40 mile race. Lucky for me I had a crappy old, brick-heavy, smooooooth spinning UN52 sitting in the parts bin, or it would have been $40 to the LBS for a new UN72 (Robbers! Where do they get off charging DOUBLE the typical mail-order of $20 -- the 'value added of having a BB tool handy?!?!? Sheesh!). Anyhoo, Performance (God Bless their capitalist little souls!) sent me a replacement post haste, which I will grind to dust before requesting yet another -- hey, fresh BBs every eight months for life, Wheeeee! Honestly, with three bearings, this jewel should last MUCH longer; I'm not a basher, I only weigh 160, and I avoid mud/wet 'cause ah hates bein' muddy and wet! 3 stars because light weight sort of counterbalances marginal durability... | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kevin S
a Cross-Country Rider
from SoCal
Date Reviewed: October 6, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Strengths: |
Light.Easy to install and service.Not expensive. | | Weaknesses: |
Bearings not so good.Warranty doesn't cover bearings that aren't so good. | | Similar Products Used: |
Disposable Shimano. | | Bottom Line: | Update to my last review. The non-drive bearing pitted out after only 7 months of mostly dry biking. I figured I'd at least get a year out of it, oh well.I took it over to Supergo but they said the warranty wouldn't cover corroded bearings. But only one was hosed, which their tech at the Santa Monica shop replaced with a better sealed one for $10. He also repacked the other two bearings while he had it apart and didn't charge me any labor, or make me wait, and even showed me how to do it all myself next time. Which I thought was pretty cool.Anyway, the bearings aren't so good, but at least it's serviceable and can even be upgraded. I still think it's a good part, but it needs more maintenance than I expected. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
grannygear
a Weekend Warrior
from Honolulu, Hawaii
Date Reviewed: September 11, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
all local trails | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
lightweight
price
performance
easy to install
double bearings on drive side | | Weaknesses: |
none to date | | Similar Products Used: |
shimano
action tec
erickson | | Bike Setup: |
schwinn moab 1 disc
RS Judy XC w/englund total air carts | | Bottom Line: | Lightweight (185 on my scale for a 73x110.5)
cartridge design = easy installation
smooth operation / no flex felt
price $60 from Supergo can't beat that for a ti | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
A.S.
a Downhiller
from NY
Date Reviewed: July 2, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
song | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Light, durable, strong (3 bearing) | | Weaknesses: |
none | | Similar Products Used: |
shimano.... | | Bike Setup: |
lx 99 cranks, gt STS | | Bottom Line: | I've had this for some time, but not long enough to say for sure. It's light, but not stupid light. the three bearings are all sealed, so it should be durable, plus the ti spindle keeps it light | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eli
a Weekend Warrior
from Fresno, CA
Date Reviewed: April 7, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
Cannell Trail | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Light, Simple and relatively cheap | | Weaknesses: |
Weak seals | | Similar Products Used: |
World Class, Shimano XT, Phil Wood, Suntour Grease Guard | | Bike Setup: |
Santa Cruz Superlight, Manitou SX Ti, Cane Creek AD 10 | | Bottom Line: | This is a follow up to my previous review. After my BB bearings started squeaking, I sent FSA an e-mail asking about possible warranty replacement. They responded within 24 hours and offered to replace the BB free of charge if I would send them the defective one. I sent the old BB and, lo and behold, today I received a brand new BB as a replacement. The total turnaround from when I sent the old BB to when the new one arrived was less than a week. Of course, I haven't had a chance to ride the new BB, but I am very happy about the good customer service that FSA offers. They even called me at home to tell me that the new BB was on the way. It's reassuring when a company responds quickly and stands behind its products. Based on their service, I'm giving the FSA BB four chilis, although the jury is still out on the durability issue. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eli
a Weekend Warrior
from Fresno, CA
Date Reviewed: March 23, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: |
cannell trail | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
simple, light | | Weaknesses: |
poor seals for bearings | | Similar Products Used: |
world class, phil wood, shimano XT | | Bike Setup: |
Santa Cruz Superlight, Cane Creek AD 10, Manitou SX Ti fork | | Bottom Line: | I bought this BB a month ago for my brand new Santa Cruz Superlight frame. I liked the three bearing design, relatively low price, and light weight. I had my local bike shop install it when they built up my bike, and since then I've put seven rides and maybe 100 miles on it. It worked fine until last Sunday, when I started to notice a loud sqeak coming from my drivetrain. It sounded like a dry chain, but when I lubed the chain, the noise didn't go away. Then I removed the chain and crank, and spun the spindle with my fingers. No doubt about it, the BB bearings were squeaking like a mouse on crystal meth. Plus there was quite a bit of roughness and resistance on the spindle. Obviously, at least one of the bearings is dry, and probably needs replacement. I have done a couple of creek crossings, and one mildly muddy ride on this BB, and I feel that it should be able to take a lot more abuse before the bearings start to fail. The only thing I can think of is that the seals are inadequate to keep the bearings dry, so any exposure to water will cause the bearings to squeak and fail. This is unacceptable for a mountain bike part. I have sent an e-mail to FSA to ask them if they can warranty the part, or at least send me some new bearings. I'm going to give this part two chilis, with the expectation that FSA will do the right thing and offer some kind of warranty replacement. If they refuse, then I'll be posting an even more negative review in the near future. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kevin S
a cross-country rider
from Venice, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: March 10, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Probably premature to review a BB with only a few weeks on it, but it's a pretty impressive part for the money. Installation was easy since it's a direct replacement for Shimano, so if your bike works with Shimano it'll work with one of these. Chainline isn't adjustable but it doesn't need to be. Uses Shimano BB tool which can be found anywhere.It uses 3 standard cartridge bearings. Unlike a UN72/52 once the bearings get scratchy you just replace them for $2 a piece, instead of throwing out the whole part. Or, you can pry the seals off and repack them. UN72's are $20 and these are $60 at Supergo. I only get 6-9 months from a UN72 so this will pay for itself eventually, in the mean time the bike is a lot lighter and it's smooth as can be (so far).BTW, truth in advertising: It says 185g on the box, the scale says 184.Mountain Bike Daily has a review on the Performance version, http://www.mountainbike.com/product/bracket/brackperfti.html | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a cross-country rider
from mtka, mn
Date Reviewed: February 19, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Sub 200 gm. BB. Looks as if it was based on Shimano's UN-72, so easy installation So far, so smooth. Made by FSA, sold under that name by Supergo, also sold by Performance as 'their own' brand. | | Overall Rating: |
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