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Date: March 16, 2006
david a weekend warrior from Canada Alberta writes:
I usualy use Marzocchi Because rockshox company was ruind but now they are doing realy good in buisness so im gettin rock shox on my new 2006 giant pistol 1 and trying it out.
WINNER: other
i still hate them all cause i can get a moutitou balck elite for a 100 bucks (priced down from 550) and it spanks em all
WINNER: z2fly
none..
fox vanillas are the dogs
�600 hundred quid.
all i need.
WINNER: other
RACE OR DIE
WINNER: sidrace
I havent ever used them but all that i know is Manitou is terrible , and i realized that the Jr.T from Bomber is weak too due to the fact the i broke the Stantions the other night . I will upgrading to a lot higher end shock by Marzochhi. Probally 888
Never used them due to the fact that i am into Freeriding and not xc
WINNER: z2fly
triple clamp big travle
WINNER: other
THEY ALL SUCK! but if i had to choose go with the marz...
WINNER: marscl
when flying down the rockies i trust manitou the most
WINNER: marscl
I do XC racing and the Sid is the only way to go! Best performance.
WINNER: sidrace
i think the z2x fly looks good and has a vary little amount of friction
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i think Z2 Xfly because i trust marzocchi the most
WINNER: z2fly
no mentioned adjustabilty ,smoothness,weight,looks,dampening,rebound,compression,
static ,etc...do you now what you are talking about? or are trix just for kids...go mars or nothing at all.
WINNER: marscl
i thinkl the rockshox are the best forks you can get. trust me, i just spent 3000 dollars on my bike and i have rockshox. if you are spending lots of money on a bike like me, go ahead and buy a Kona Cowan with some rockshox
WINNER: sidrace
Now we are in 2005, the Manitou Mars has evolved into the Skareb (http://www.answerproducts.com/, then use Search). This forum has been extant since 2000, and in the meantime, riders are going bigger and forks are getting longer travel. Answer still stands out, though, as a manufacturer who stand out in customer support. When you wear out the bushings in your shock or fork, just call the support line to get an RMA. You'll see your shock or fork inside of a week, and they will have made it like new.
Now that Rockshox is owned by SRAM, I would hope they would do as well, but I would not know: we run only Manitou here. (The Minute with SPV is a wonderful ride.)
WINNER: other
Seth's right - all you spandex-wearin,locarb beer-swilling weight-weenies from the left coast wouldn't know a real fork if it bit ya in the ass. Zokes 66.
WINNER: other
oh let me add to my last statement, i cant believe white brothers are still in busniss(are they even?)theres a reason you never hear about/see white brothers forks on the trail, and it has alot to do with the fact that they are too expensive and suck...like Seth from texas's momma
WINNER: other
oh let me add to my last statement, i cant believe white brothers are still in busniss(are they even?)theres a reason you never hear about/see white brothers forks on the trail, and it has alot to do with the fact that they are too expensive and suck...like Seth from texas's momma
WINNER: other
Marzocchi- Seth from Texas is an idiot. 1) His grasp of the English language is exactly what I've experienced of those from the lone star state(i.e. dub-ya). 2) Texas is flat, there are no downhillers. Seth you blow
WINNER: z2fly
I have never riden any of these, and i would never use anything but marzocchi,
WINNER: z2fly
I guess some people are good at putting there foot in there mouths (below). However, he is correct that all of the listed shocks are crap.
WINNER: other
i Have wasted my time reading all of your reveiws and that leads me to the conclusion that most of you people are the type that would wear spandex on an urban night ride and afterwards drink low carb import beer at a gay bar and talk about the pride that fills you because you bunny hopped a curb for the first time... all the shocks listed above are crap, the closest one having any hope is the marzzochii and that is only because it is a marzzochii... the one pictured is a 2002. IT IS 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!! not to mention the rest of the sorry ass shocks along side it. every time i accidentally stumble apon this sorry ass site i wish that i didn't because of the crappy products that you review. further i beleive that i could do this job much better than the spandex jocky currently choosing the products to reveiw.... for god sake one of those shocks are 6 years old. in my opinion which coming from a person that is looking to purchase a new "quality" shock which makes me a customer whether i like it or not should mean something. sorry to be so negative but it is about time i said something. i apologize for the gay bar comment but not for the spandex. feel free to email me, every body is intitled to there opinion as i just displayed so let er
rip sincerly yours seth
WINNER: other
I got a 04 sid team, and it soaks up everything. big and small. also one of the lightest forks avaliable
WINNER: sidrace
Smooth handling on tough ride
WINNER: z2fly
Brad Dunkin from Belleville is a dumbass!!!!
WINNER: sidrace
SID plush soaks up boulders and fast on the flats if you don't mind rebuilding them ever so often, lite weight too.
WINNER: sidrace
fox find something better
WINNER: other
i really dont know anything about forks or bikes or parts and everything else.so im just gonna pic the best name if thats okay with you guys.
WINNER: z2fly
out of these forks i wouldnt pick any because i have a 7 dollar zoom suspension system from wal-mart and it works professional i have friends with 1500 dollar suspension forks and mine surpasses them all
WINNER: other
Marzocchi with the White Brothers a close second.
Sid is a flexy piece o' junk.
Manitou, don't even get me started...junk.
Marzocchi's been at the suspension thing for over fifty years, they know their stuff. Light enough, rigid, and, most of all, responsive. They're also easy to service and very well made.
WINNER: z2fly
its looks touch and could probably beat the crap out of those other things, than impregnate their wives without them knowing.
WINNER: marscl
Fox..er..update the comparison?
WINNER: other
rockshox sid race
is such a excellent performance
WINNER: sidrace
the Z2 XFly is betterthan others for me. I like the XC4 colors though.
WINNER: z2fly
I never had a Rockshox, but have a z2xfly, Mars and other Maitou shox. Mars is spongy and unreliable, break easy and don't respond to air pressure (ALL Manitou Shocks Suck!). The Bomber is the best shock I've ever had, very smooth, reliable sturdy and adjustable. Bomber has nice wide stance as well for control. I'll never get another Manitou again (They Suck!). Marzocchi or I'll try FOX.
WINNER: z2fly
The Mars CL was rigged enough to trail ride and light enough to race. Setup was snappy, maintenance a breeze. Although it leaked oil past the lock-out knob continously and I was forced to replenish it on a regular basis this was a great fork. You can't beat the reliability of the SID or its plush ride. The SID is a great race fork but I stayed with the Mars at the time.
WINNER: marscl
This one needs to be updated.......
WINNER: other
porque es lo mejor que e probado en todo mi tiempo con el caballo
WINNER: sidrace
juliet peth
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TO SEE MY MATEUR
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the mars cl needed too much attention and i so i went to the z2 xfly and they kick ass no probs with em at all
WINNER: z2fly
Ofcourse I will go for the sidrace because it's sid !!!!!
It is very light and fun I only tried it once on A professional rider fuel 100 but it was sid world cup.
WINNER: sidrace
Of these, I've only owned the SID and the Mars CL. I like the SID, but durability is pretty bad. The Mars is durable, but a crummy performer. BTW, I don't think Manitou even makes this anymore.
WINNER: sidrace
Some of these reviews on here are hilarious. One guy was talking about how great RST is...another guy Cannondale Lefty..pure crap. I have ridden all 4 except the White Bros, and I can say that Marzocchi is the best. The Sid requires too much maintenance, the Manitou is ok, but its not plush. For the money, Marzocchi makes the best forks.
WINNER: z2fly
I think that the mars cl is the better option, I have always ridden with manitou and have had no trouble AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: marscl
Marzocchi makes the best forks period.
WINNER: z2fly
there crap get some bomber weages on like me ill snap them forks in 1 minit the fings i do
WINNER: z2fly
GTS Rules, a new product from Asia that surpass 'em all! Strong, Cheap, durable!
WINNER: other
white bros xc4 all the way!!!! they shit on all the rest of them!
WINNER: xc4
my gervin noleen elits put them all to shame
WINNER: other
Rockshox Sid... Light, tough and comfy. Nothing else to say.
WINNER: sidrace
marzocchi is the best but i gotta go with either a z-1 or a super-t
WINNER: other
I love my Manitou Mars CL the best race fork I've ever ridden bar none...
WINNER: marscl
DO YOU HAVE TO TRY, THE NEW ROCK SHOX SID TEAM AND REMOTE LOCKOUT ADDED, WORKS REALLY GREAT,(OR WORLD CUP,IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF BUCKS,CARBON RULES)MY ONLY COMPLAIN WAS INSTALING THE REMOTE LOCKOUT ON MY FORK,IT WAS A REAL BRAIN TORTURE TO SET UP CORRECTLY, AFTER THAT, JUST AMAZING.
WINNER: other
Ilove my SID RACE!
WINNER: sidrace
despite having 74mm travel, this fork is by far the most plush i've experienced. it requires almost mo maintenance, the people at White Bros are unbeatable for service and it is SO stiff.
I don't think enough people have tried this fork to count it out.
WINNER: xc4
I'll stick with Monsters
WINNER: other
I am a big fan of marzocchi they are very nice and dependable
WINNER: z2fly
In the last few years I've had bikes with a '99 sid-dual air, '00 Manitou sxr, a Cannondale headshok fatty ultra and a C'dale lefty. If you like plush and super damped, the Manitou is nice, but the bushings got pretty used up. The fatty and the sid are very light, and nice race shocks. the difference in torsional stiffness is amazing though. Torsionally the fatty is like a rigid fork. The lefty has got it all though. great damping adjustablity, sid-like weight, the torsional stiffness of a rigid fork, and the best lockout, bar none (I use the manual twist). Both it and the fatty have a bit of a harsh top-out, though I only seem to notice this while climbing without the lockout. Cannondale Lefty.
WINNER: other
I rode Rox for yrs, then Manitou carbon. I've had problems with the Manitou locking out on one leg, but overall, the best short travel light XC fork I've rode.
WINNER: marscl
Marathon SL!!
WINNER: other
awsome shock
WINNER: z2fly
I was riding on those all forks and the best was Marzocchi Z2 X-Fly
WINNER: z2fly
marzocchi is the best fork you can by ever, in any type of riding. They are bomb proof and they are fairly light.
WINNER: z2fly
Everyone can take their cheap-ass, plastic internal, wanna-be shocks and put them where the sun doesn't shine! I've tried most of them in an attempt to find a shock that will last more than one race season and 20,000km per year (yes that is the distance I train). Only ONE company has delivered: PACE out of England! The carbon legs are beautiful, the internals are (get this) machined aluminum and NOT plastic, and they've been using a lock out lever way before Rock shox even figured out what dampening was. Pace is to "shocks" as Chris King is to "headsets". (PERIOD)
WINNER: other
i'll take my super t's thank u.
WINNER: other
shocks are basically the same but im a manitou/ marzocci man ive never ridden on whites and rock shox blow theyre for sissies i know so many people that have blown those sids out it aint funny i own some x -verts and theyre even better than the sids my fav though is the dirt jumper 1 and fox vanilla series
WINNER: other
marzocchis rule the trail!
WINNER: z2fly
Honestly, I ca't find the difference of the bounce of all these forks. Maybe some of features on the brochures are for commercial purposes only. I have tried almost all the brand of forks but find really no big difference on each other except for the design and travel. If you shop wise, buy an RST regardless of models. Its cheaper and has the same features.
WINNER: other
All of these forks are discontinued models. Lets see an updated comparison . Fox Forx with shimed damping design has put all of these forks in the ditch. I have had every high end fork made in the last 5 years. I serviced all of them. Fox reinvented the front end of bikes . Tracking , action , durability its all at the highest level yet.
WINNER: other
mars
WINNER: marscl
I like the Sid - light and durable, but the price........
WINNER: sidrace
I own a RS PsyloRace Airfork, the best I have ever owned! So i'll go with the Sid as it is the, even lighter, brother to my Psylo
WINNER: sidrace
Oh no.. id def say the z2xfly.. running z1Freeride QR20.. yeah
WINNER: z2fly
rock shox all th eway baby
WINNER: sidrace
SOOO Light
WINNER: sidrace
marzocchi dj 2003 20mm axel
WINNER: other
Well out of the four i pick the sid it's a quality light weight shock, but if i could have any shock it would be a Fox.
WINNER: sidrace
never tried those forks... but i'll go with DJ by marzocchi
WINNER: other
THEY'RE GOOD...
WINNER: marscl
Any and all things marzocchi, I love my Marathon sooo much more than the Manitou I had before it. Have tried the Rock Shox, great light weight but the short travel and flexibility just didn't do it for me.
WINNER: z2fly
I dunno about the white, but none of these others work as well as the manitou black comp I got after I grew sick of the z2...
WINNER: other
Rock Shox rule!
WINNER: sidrace
Chromoly rigid. Tired of all the headaches and high maintenance bills? Get a rigid fork. I've been riding rigid on my single speed for the last year. Run a carbon bar and some tubeless wheels and that should be plenty of shock absorbtion!
WINNER: other
sleek fast durble
WINNER: z2fly
These forks suck, the ultimate XC fork is the Marzocchi Z150. 6" single crown. Booyeah! Suck it!!
WINNER: other
These forks suck, the ultimate XC fork is the Marzocchi Z150. 6" single crown. Booyeah! Suck it!!
WINNER: other
who
WINNER: sidrace
It's all about the Lefty. Try it to believe it. If not, the Headshok Fatty SL that i'm running right now is the shiznat.
Fox F80 RLC is my fave ou tside of the c'dales.
WINNER: other
PSYLO Race 2001 or 2002 models only. These forks rock. They are exactly the same as a SID Race but fatter tubes. Lockout, dual air, 80mm, 100mm or 125mm adjustment and only 3.5 lbs. I used to ride a SID Team and it was so flimsy I put on the 2001 psylo race at 100mm and will never go back to the rubber band sid.
WINNER: other
I honestly can't speak for the others - but my SID shock is everything I've ever wanted in a XC fork. If you ride XC this would deffinitly be my top suggestion. The dual air adjustability even for rebound is awesome and I especially like the lockout function. If you're a DH rider maybe its not for you but if you like climbing mountains as much as screaming down them and riding long distance - its SID all the way.
WINNER: sidrace
Ride a fox float and you'll understand what a front suspension was meant to be.
WINNER: other
Leftys are it for me. I hate sloppy forks.
WINNER: other
I've had my Mongoose IBOC for 12 years, and it had yet to fail me! The things is, it predates "SHOCKS". That's why God gave me knees and elbows!!! I see them all as wasted weight, and when I ride, I like to RIDE! Who's the poofter that thought of shock absorbers for a bicycle?
WINNER: other
Hmmm. Mars is like a junky plastic toy. The xfly is like a noodle. The sid is like an over cooked noodle. And the xc4, well I really don't know.
Fox is the real deal. Ride it to believe it.
WINNER: other
for XC is SID
WINNER: sidrace
" LOCK-OUT" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: sidrace
Marzocchi Z2 XFLY because of the stiffness and plushness.
WINNER: z2fly
Light. Just that.
WINNER: sidrace
I mostly xc, but I also downhill/freeride. Ive tried products from all these manufactures except for white bros. The sid and the mars are a little to wimpy for my style. Even when Im on my xc bike I like a fork that can handle some abuse. Everyone Ive known that has white bros end up blowing them constantly. I have never experienced a problem with any marzocchi product ive ridden, and they feel great. I definitly have to go with the xfly. Its big, its bad and its still light enough to xc race on.
WINNER: z2fly
Nothing can beat the feeling of dual air on a sid a true fully adjustable ride.You will definetly notice your ride on the trails.
WINNER: sidrace
With just a slight weight disadvantage, nothing beats the maintainence of the XC (very low) and stiffest is slightly higher than th Xfly
WINNER: xc4
Fox float 125 rlc = best fork on the market
WINNER: other
what is sweeter than a bomber. so plush, only downside, rebuilds needed often.
WINNER: z2fly
Z3 XFly for me. The others are good to.
(JT2 :))
WINNER: z2fly
MArcozzi rools ! They perform well and kick buttttt!!!!!!!!
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mazzoc win hands down wouldnt use eiter of these though if your gona go go big SHIVERS are where its at.triple clamp it or go home.
WINNER: other
mmm! psylo race. better than sid
WINNER: other
this is very intense! i cant decide! i wish they had a plasma moto shock on here because thats what i like.... its fun to race around i can go weeeeeee im a cross countryer!!!! GET A SUPER MONSTER marzocchi bitches
WINNER: z2fly
In Mexico we have great climbs and great downhills, "need the best they say", Manitou is sold and well known, but Rockshox is always asked for and strongly suggested to customers.
WINNER: sidrace
I realy do not kick it with the cross country set that much, but I would like to point out that Marzocchi makes an low maintenance product which puts out optimum performance. The manufacturers P.R. guys leave a little to be desired, but they are much better to deal with than rockshox. All though I am yet to have any problems with any of my bombers.
WINNER: z2fly
BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: marscl
Fox Floats is by far the best all around shock out there. I had a Manitou sx 100mm and i was always flying over the handle bars doing down hill really fast on rocky soft ground. The Manitou has abit of flex to it because the wheel truns side ways. Since i buy my Fox Float RLC 6 months ago I have not gone over the handlebars on that shock, Because it is so much stiffer fox buts 32mm bars for stable and the shock looks bigger then other shocks that are 30mm bar. The stable with 32mm bar is a big different but that why you pay $550 for a shock. The shock also smooth on big and little hits it beats a sid and for as far as weigth Fox@ 3.62lbs of 100mm Super stiff, and stiff, plus maintenance is great ever 25 hour of riding tune up the shock and sid@2.8lbs and 80mm not very stiff and high maintenance and there are the same price about.
WINNER: other
if the shock doesnt have either 100 mm of travel, or lock out
dont even dare but it on my baby
WINNER: sidrace
sid works best in xc. rox is cool!!!
WINNER: sidrace
I have AIDS. Marzocchi helps the most with my illness.
WINNER: z2fly
Manitou and white bro's are just plain bad, and the sid is pretty weak, marzocchi all the way
WINNER: z2fly
rock shox is great, but the sid is to weak, i'll go with the marzocchi
WINNER: z2fly
I love RockShox, but im going to have to go with the Marzocchi
WINNER: z2fly
personally i own a mars and love it very much i think its an awesome fork, but if i could afford it i would be on a sid.
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best reputation
WINNER: z2fly
I'm a BOMBER girl all the way, so I guess that makes me biased. The Zoke isn't the lightest but definetly gives the best perfomance and is very reliable ride. Toodles.
WINNER: z2fly
sid race carbon is what i like, it's light and has lock out. Great for xc, even for riding road.
WINNER: sidrace
it depends on what you are doing with the fork. for me, i am a cross country guy so i would choose The SID's
WINNER: sidrace
I want something i can feel will save me when the unexpected arrives.
WINNER: z2fly
Its a great fork but its NOT as Good as the Dirt Jumper 2
WINNER: z2fly
though TPC has the best design in my tech view, but Manitou has never produced a fork that combining both air and oil, sid is a seperated design for its pressure and respond travel, add more reliability and weight, I think the SID links still got potential, and for its maintanice, its the easiest of all!
In addition, IN CHINA, SID RACE only 350$..! and the others are not easy to obtain
WINNER: sidrace
None, Fox Floats rule!
WINNER: other
mars is the best, other sucks
WINNER: marscl
roc k shox suck and marzocchi rules all
WINNER: z2fly
RS is the best
WINNER: sidrace
Rigid, but i'd go with zocchi if i needed a spring.
WINNER: other
marzocchi is best because it has good travel, 100mm, when others dont. mars is too low travel, sid is too much maintenance, white bros is too much maintenance and not a top brand, its semi shady
WINNER: z2fly
marzocchi rules
WINNER: z2fly
I have Duke C and i think it's the best
WINNER: other
Mars is light and TPC is tha best shock technology out there.
Rockshox was sued by Manitou because they copied the TPC design for their new Psylo
Cannondale lefty forks now use TPC
Nuff said.....
WINNER: marscl
I have the Mars Cl and the oil has leaked twice. They are light as hell and felt great when they were brand new. Now, they are shot after a year.
WINNER: sidrace
i'm 100% downhiller/racer. you dont need more travel, you need to learn how to ride your bike dude. 4-all you other down hillers that can't pick a line and go for all the big rocks, you might want something like the boxxer. but for someone like me who can go down the steep and rockey and flow down it like water save your money and like a bird FLY
WINNER: z2fly
Its the best out there. It the shit. Period.
WINNER: sidrace
rock shox is the top maker when it comes to a cross country fork. Marozzoci for D/H Trials, Jumping, anything aggresive
WINNER: sidrace
MARZOCCHI ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'VE GOT A MONSTER T NOW FOR 2 YEARS, AND HAVENT HAD ANY TROUBLE WITH IT. I'VE GONE OFF ROOF'S AND THE FORK JUST KEEPS ON GOING, ON MY DIRT JUMPING BIKE I'VE GOT A Z1 DROP OFF AND NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS..MARZOCCHI'S ALSO THE PLUSHEST FORK'S EVER!!! RIDE MARZOCCHI, IT'S THE BEST!!!!!
WINNER: z2fly
Im a Marzocchi man. If u ride anything else seriously ur kidding yourself. My Z1 Droppoffs dont bottom out or have anything wrong with them after airing off a 16 foot drop.
they own!
WINNER: z2fly
Stick a fork in it, this thread is done.
WINNER: other
Stick a fork in it, this thread is done.
WINNER: other
It doesn't matter!!! What works for you is what you should stick with! If you have a fork thats fine for the type of riding you do don't get sucked into buying a more expensive one cuz someone says to!!
WINNER: other
2002 Jrt pro's SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSuuuuuuuuuucckkkkk
WINNER: sidrace
2002 JRT PRO ARE TOPING OUT
WINNER: other
2002 JRT PRO ARE TOPING OUT
WINNER: other
2002 JRT PRO ARE TOPING OUT
WINNER: other
I BOT MY SHOCK TWO WIKES A GO AND THAY ARE TOPING OUT THAY RAE 2002 JRT PRO SO ARE YHAY STILL URND WORNT
WINNER: other
umm i don't no wat to writ here?
WINNER: z2fly
Marzocchi is the best way to go
WINNER: z2fly
the marzocchis because of open bath technology
WINNER: z2fly
Sid Race-Light, Plush, Fast
WINNER: sidrace
None of these forks I would ever buy. I am a big fan of the Fox Float RLC. It is the best fork on the market. My second choice would be the SID Race Titanium...but who cares about "2nd chice". Get the best!!!! Fox Racing Shox RULE ALL!!!
WINNER: other
Go with the Innovator...not the immitator. Rock Shox by far. Just because you made a bum purchase, don't go rambling on about weight not being an issue.
WINNER: sidrace
mars cl likes to break, zokes are smooth and lovely but weigh a ton, sid race is smooth, adjustable with lock out and is light.
WINNER: sidrace
They all suck you idiots buy a real fork these are fake gimmicks boxxer or super duel crowm frks rule and Z1s
WINNER: other
Marzocchi. No doubt.
WINNER: z2fly
marzocchi is the best no doubts about it.
WINNER: z2fly
SID Race is beyond comparison, the best fork out there. It is not only the lightest fork out there, but it offers great options. I would have to say the SID SL is better than any of the shocks listed. The SL is also lighter, and comes with the rebound and lock-out controls. No question, SID all the way!
WINNER: sidrace
here in the north wet corner of the map it's wet here (big suprise?) get a fork designed by people that have been make suspension forks for I think it is over 50 years. get anything from marzocchi, yes they weigh a little more because they are intended to last more than one race with no maintenence. once setup properly the only thing needed is to change to fresh oil (remember the oil level) once a year and clean under the dust seals. white brothers would maybe be a good second, they make moto stuff also.
my vote is for anything marzocchi! made by real people for real people
WINNER: other
screw all those forks, go with a marzocchi junior t, or monster t or a risse champ. those are beefy forks.
WINNER: other
Just wanted to say that the SID RACE TITANIUM is the worst fork I have ever owned. I just sent my fourth one back to RockShox. Switched to a Z2 XFly and that one kicks ass.
WINNER: z2fly
quality and durability
WINNER: z2fly
My new Fox Forx Vinilla 125RLC runs through the rock gardens in which all the rest of these forks lay buried in. THE END
WINNER: other
The new Fox Forx wins hands down. It's the best fork I've ever run. I'll give the Marzook and White Bros a tie for second place though. They are good enough to get the job done for 99% of the MTB crowd.
WINNER: other
When i was little i liked bikes. and i still like bikes. my favourite fork is ROCK SHOX. i have a norco with rock shox and it is the best. In canada, for me, rock shox all the way
WINNER: sidrace
Sid, if you are light, xfly if you are heavy.
WINNER: sidrace
For all out weigh saving, and also, 80 mm of travel, the SID race is the best fork. For the aggressive cross counrty weekend rider, the Bomber Z2 is best. The XC4 has bad reports, and the Mars CL is not as light as the SID, and not as stiff as the Z2.
WINNER: sidrace
z2 xfly
WINNER: z2fly
Monster T's.
WINNER: other
I`ve ridden 3 of the 4 here and the X-flys just edge it over the white bros
WINNER: z2fly
marzocchi all the way!
WINNER: z2fly
i am a freeride rider
WINNER: z2fly
I just got a pair of these super-fly Marzocchis. Man do they rock!. Ok, I had an old pair of Rock Shocks on my bike before, but I rode about every fork under the sun before I chose these. Marzocchi has overcome reputation of short travel, leaky strokers from the early days and now leads the pack with a nice product.
WINNER: z2fly
Dontwaste ur money, Get more travel
WINNER: other
You can't beat Marzocchi.
WINNER: z2fly
Sid takes the cake. Marzocchi doesn`t work well, Manipoo looks crapy... I`ve never tried a White Bros.
WINNER: sidrace
Ride the Marz fork for 2 weeks then pull it apart and pack the upper cavities with Judy Butter , put new oil in it and put together. result is the freshest fork ever. They do not take the time to place them together correctlty at the factory. Get to know your fork.
WINNER: z2fly
bombers take it. no questions asked. all the other forks ive experienced have quality problems and or use cheap parts in the name of producability.i used to be an inspector for the first suspension company.dont buy one of those.its a crapshoot.if youre worried about half a pound or so cut down on the beer and mc d's.
WINNER: z2fly
i just screwed my z1 drop off....so no more marcozchi for me
sid race is air so it will bust too easy
the wb and manitou one i dont know
but there are better ones than shown there...
WINNER: other
Tie, they suck equally, none of them have enough travel
WINNER: other
The Zoch is quality bar none
WINNER: z2fly
Marzocchi forks are just the highest quality there is. They're plush as warm butter, they don't twist under heavy loads, and they look bad-ass. They're a little "heavy", but for the durability, the quality, and the ride you get.. who cares? Marzocchi all the way. No questions asked.
WINNER: z2fly
the one and only that represents in the toughest of times can only be from marzocchi.
WINNER: z2fly
easily the best!
WINNER: z2fly
white brothers
WINNER: other
Italian Stallions without a doubt.
Rock Shocks = US junk
WINNER: z2fly
marzochi all the way can not be touched
WINNER: z2fly
Sid race!
WINNER: sidrace
The rockshox of course! it totally rulezz...just like the psylos and the boxxer.....the other brands are just amaturistic copycats of the originals....although i have seen some good shocks from manitou, i will just feel safer on a Rockshocks.....rockshox all the way...
WINNER: sidrace
many valid points to all this, but the unfortunate fact ive seen all too many times. when it comes time to overhaul these forks the manufacturer ( perhaps not all....but) has stoped the production of parts ....a piece of advice , when you buy a new shock, buy a rebuild kit too.....
WINNER: other
Marzocchi z2 xfly RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!yah
WINNER: z2fly
JA IZ ISKUSTVA(29 GODINA VO�NJE) ZNAM DA JE Z2 NAPROSTO NAJBOLJI. JA OD SVOJE 15 GODINE VOZIM KONU STAB PRIMO, CANONDALE....MORAM PRIZNATI DA I RS SID NIJE LO�.ALI �TA SAD;Z2 JE BOLJI OD SIDA(SAM TI REKO FILIP)
WINNER: z2fly
None I would say the Marzocchi Marathon takes the cake. I have busted a Manitou and a White Bros (customer service sucks). I also had a Sid SL wich is good but it flexes way too much for a 200 lbs man.
WINNER: other
Manitou Black Elite! SId forks are light, wowo u save a pound over a black but its not as stiff or smooth riding...good for hardpack but for real trails ill take the black 80-100...
WINNER: other
rockshocks rock so they are better.
WINNER: sidrace
White brothers is the plushest fork i have ever gotten my hands. Don't think i will unless it spoils.....
WINNER: xc4
Marzocchi, hassle free, tough, reliable, easy to fiddle with
WINNER: z2fly
Forks I currently own are sid sl, sid race, manitou sx-r, marz marathon, and white bros xc4. Stiffness is a no brainer, wb xc4 takes it. Plushness, again wb xc4 but it is close with the marathon. Weight would go to the sid race. However, the sid sl rides better. Weight really isn't an issue here because they are all very light. Without babbling on, White Bros XC4 is the winner.
WINNER: xc4
I wanted a White Bros but couldn't find a place that sells it, let alone parts later on when it needs new seals/etc. So its now an X-Fly on my rig. SID?...sure its light...so is cardboard, and thats about the strength.
WINNER: z2fly
I think the sid race is better
WINNER: sidrace
The Rockshox sid race is the best suspension you can get in the world.
WINNER: sidrace
the sid race is da bomb. no dought about it
WINNER: sidrace
my manitou is the second fork i'v owend an it's all i could ask for
WINNER: marscl
If you're phat like me better go with White or Marzocchi. If you're lighter the Sids are nice but you gotta get maintenance often. Manitou XC forks don't seem to hold up, their downhill stuff is all right though. The winner for trouble-free riding would have to be Marzocchi, for Racing it would be a Sid.
WINNER: z2fly
leftys better
WINNER: other
sid sid sid sid sid sid sid .. its just thats good!!
Marzocchi makes freeride/DH forks ... ther Sx forks are way to heavy!
WINNER: sidrace
ROCK SHOX ARE THE WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: sidrace
I use Marzocchi because it's better!
WINNER: z2fly
Rockshox are ownage - best quility forks on the market
WINNER: sidrace
Either the White Bros or the Marzocchi will win, cause RS just cant make smooth travel forks, and the tpc on Manitous are usually crap.
WINNER: z2fly
White Bros make a great fork, but nothing can top the smooth buttery performance of Bombers.
WINNER: z2fly
The only shock I would even consider of the bunch is the Marzocchi. I would only use it on a lightweight crosscountry racer(either hardtail or full suspension). For all other types of Trail bikes,Freeride,Downhill I would not go air at all, and get a Marzocchi Atom race or MCR or Triple crown Coil/Oil.....
WINNER: z2fly
I'm new to Marzocchi, but love it. Better than the Rock Shox, thats for sure. Much stiffer, cooler looks ;) 20mm Axle.. whats not to love?
WINNER: z2fly
since i am such a beast (as u have heard about in some of my trail reviews) i can choose none other than the marzocchi. i rode a sid race once and cracked the sanction tube down the front. (not really, but they are verty noodly) they also require a lot of maintinence to run well and sometimes flex under hard braking with disks. i just don';t understand weight wienies, i can clean hall ranch in lyons colorado in my middle chanring no matter if i'm riding a 35lb freeride bike or a 20lb xc bike. i would definately chose the Z2 on this one, it is the beastly choice. --------BEAST
WINNER: z2fly
Just take another look at the four forks pictured...
... based on aesthetics alone Z2 XFly wins.
Mine has proved brilliantly stiff in the long- run too.
WINNER: z2fly
durable, plush, looks nice..........z2XFly
WINNER: z2fly
The sid is only good if you need the absolute lightest fork.
The XC4 is a overgrown judy
The mars is a reasonable fork.
however the marzocchi wins again, it's bombproof, very adjustable, easily rebuildable. It's a little heavier, but in the long haul it will win.
WINNER: z2fly
Marzocchi Shocks are some of the best in the world i used to ride rockshoxs but there is such a diffrence in durability and movemen. Marzocci z2fly is the winner.
WINNER:
The Z2...the sid is nice and light if you ride like my sister and have enough tools and time to start your own bike shop...manitou and white don't stack up
WINNER: z2fly
SID Race wins by far. It is light, pretty stiff, has the best adjustments, and it is SID blue.
WINNER: sidrace
Under 170lbs, the Sid Race Wins, otherwise go with a fork with over 30mm stanchions. Also, sids are not good with disk brakes!
WINNER: other
the Z2 is teh stiffest, and the smoothest. the sid has better adjustments though.
WINNER: z2fly
the zokeis by far the stiffest in the test and to me that matters. I dont go into corners as fast or muscle my bike around as 'certaintly' as i do with a stiff fork, i just dont feel one with th bike.
WINNER: z2fly
I would say Marzocchi. And to the "Basque country" fellow, what passport do you exactly have?? I thought so. Viva Espa�a.
WINNER: z2fly
sid is the best in the diagram shown, too bad they didnt show other shox........
WINNER: sidrace
GRIP SHIFT IS LIGHT,TROUBLE FREE,EASY SERVICE.I USE SRAM/SACHS QUARZ SHIFTERS ON MY SBC STUMPJUMPER.WHEN I USE MY FRIENDS ALIVIO I SEE HOW EASY IS TO SHIFT ON TRICKY SITUATIONS!HOWEVER I AM FAN OF GRIPSHIFTS...!
WINNER: marscl
rockshox sid race wins hands down. Of course, I'm not a guy who demands a really stiff fork, just a reliable, light, plush one. why else is the cross country championship always won with a sid?
WINNER: sidrace
i have to support the z2
WINNER: z2fly
i have to support the z2
WINNER: z2fly
i ride a sid and have been on all of the other forks and the sid rules far above all other forks.
WINNER: sidrace
Last year I changed my Rock Shox to Pace RC36 Forks - made in Yorkshire England and absolutely fantastic forks.
WINNER: other
MARZOCCHI FORKS RULE!!!!!!!!ELASTOMERS IN SHOCKS SEEMS A LITTLE OUT DATED.AND ROCK SHOX HAS ONLY MADE ONE FORK CONSISTANTLY,THE BOXXER.
ALL THIER OTHER FORKS ARE BEING UPGRADED FROM YEAR TO YEAR FIXING LAST YEARS PROBLEMS,AND INTRODUCING NEW MODELS.HOW EVER FORKS FROM THE SMALLER COMPANIES I'M SURE ARE WORTH WHILE
WINNER: z2fly
Got to go w/ the Z2 XFly - Bomb proof
WINNER: z2fly
Definatly SID. Marzocchi forks are fashion forks, I have only tried a Manitou Spider R and I found it to be crap. As for the XC4, it'#s opver priced.
WINNER: sidrace
Headshock is a clear winner.
WINNER: other
man is the best compromise between weight, stiffness, damping and spring performance
WINNER: marscl
ALL GOOD!
WINNER: sidrace
well, i've ridden marzocchi since 'back in the day;' that is to say, back when their forks were some serious crap. i blew the seals on my ol' xc51 every week or two, so when it was time to buy a new bike i was thrilled to find that the bombers rocked, and i could finally laugh at all those jerks with their mag10's and 21's who had ridiculed me. brand loyalty, baby.
WINNER: z2fly
Marzocchi all the way, can't beat it!
WINNER: z2fly
Marzocchi all the way.
WINNER: z2fly
Marazocchi is the best, you cant beat them in any field of cometition
WINNER: z2fly
Z2 XFly
After riding Manitou for 6 years, I switched to Marzocchi this year. Whoops - should have made the change earlier! So what's 200 grams? Skip dessert!
WINNER: z2fly
Marocchi has always been my favorite, still is. Best looking. Best performing. Best value. Enough said.
WINNER: z2fly
The Mars is the best racing fork on the market. They are light as a feather, and as plush as a heavy Marzocchi after it has been tweaked left and right. Screw SIDS. Flexy, not plush.
WINNER: marscl
MARZOCCHI (EUROPE) AGAINST USA .
MY OPINION IS THAT MARZOCCHI FORKS ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD.
MY CONDOLOENCES TO THE AMERICAN COUNTRY DUE TO THE COWARD ATTACKS FROM 9-11-2001
WINNER: z2fly
i like marazochi dh forkes+rock shok dh forkes +manaitou.
WINNER: sidrace
I think it�s time for a new test of products! Z2 X Fly vs Psylo vs Black vs Fox. Now there�s a challenge!
WINNER: z2fly
I'm a Canadian extreme rider... that is about all I got to say
WINNER: z2fly
All I can say is that the Sid is the best shock I have ever owned or ridden. However, in all fairness I have never ridden a Marzocchi.
WINNER: sidrace
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WINNER: z2fly
Because all these forks work well for their own design, the next important feature would be weight.
We all know the lightest fork here is the Sid. (If you spent all your time and money keeping your bike light, go with these for sure).
If you don't really care about grams, go for performance.
In my opinion, Manitou makes the best race-intended fork, hands down.
White Brothers would closely follow with their near flawless design.
Then, of course, Marzocchi for the travel, weight is however sacraficed. For longer travel, these rock. And they look good on any bike.There are many great forks from these companies to fit anyones budget.
For downhill racing, new Manitou inverted.
For downhill/freeride, Marzocchi shiver or Monster T.
For drops bigger than ever, S8, bigfoot or Avalanche. Oh yeah!
WINNER:
I've tried them all except for White broes... But as far as I can tell Rock Shox has it all... good ride, good travel, good value, and hell good looks. I'll never switch unless I really have to... which is never!!
WINNER: sidrace
I ve got rock shox judy tt race and have always been a fan of rs so becauseive had experince with rs uill ggo with sid
WINNER: sidrace
Marzocchi for reliability, quality and ride
WINNER: z2fly
3 cheers for the better lesser known product, white brothers. I like the name too. White pride!
ps re: specd on more bikes if it was better product.
Bullsh*t! There are more plastic 1/2" pedals and unsealed 1" threaded headsets spec'd on bikes worldwide than spds and ritchey logic 1 1/8. Does that make them a better product
WINNER: xc4
rockshoks has my vote fro dependability. Marzochi is known for there long travel smoothness not there light race forks. White is just to small a competitor.(if it really was good, it would be spec'd on more bikes) and manitou i've never gotten to know. I don't know there line up or there features.
WINNER: sidrace
Marizocci kicks ass
WINNER: z2fly
I prefer longevity over lite-weight anyday!
WINNER: z2fly
I prefer longevity over lite-weight anyday!
WINNER: z2fly
Superlight, stiff (for a 139 lbs rider), 60mm is enough travel for xc riding.
WINNER: sidrace
these forks are CRAP for DH but the marzocchi would get the vote as the rest are weaker than tin foil
WINNER: z2fly
Nothing even comes close to the SID. Yeah you have to maintain it but its closest competitor is over a 1/2 lb more.
WINNER: sidrace
I own a z2atom bomb. Owned others. zoke is always a plush ride.
WINNER:
sid, though i prefer the sl or xc.
WINNER: other
The only logical choice here is the Marzocchi. It feels the best, rides the best, and looks the best. The stanchions are bigger than the Sid, it's cheaper to maintain than the White, and the seals won't blow like the ones on the Mars. For all you who complain about weight, pee before the ride and you just dropped that extra weight. I have ridden every fork on the market (I work at a shop) and the Marzocchi is hansd-down the best fork produced.
WINNER: z2fly
i have an XC700 (Marzzochi) and it Leaks.
My next fork is the Rock Shocks S.i.D Race for Sure !!!
WINNER: sidrace
Don't be a pansy and use shocks...
WINNER: other
SID Race....i got one and it is like buttaaa...absolutly perfect for my type of riding
WINNER: sidrace
MARZOCCHI!!!!!!!
WINNER: z2fly
Bombers Rule! These things are solid and reliable. Set it and forget it.
WINNER: z2fly
Sid Race - all the shock absorption i need without any of the weight.
WINNER: sidrace
Go with a Lefty!! Don't knock it 'till you try it. As light as these forks, stiffer and more travel, go figure.
WINNER: other
Marzocchi's simply the best...
WINNER: z2fly
Used both SID and Manitou shocks; Manitou is much easier to maintain.
WINNER: marscl
SID RACE, there is no question that in the world of XC racing that i would want a SID on my bike. I race both DH and XC and i love what the guys at ROCK SHOX have done with their air forks. IT is super light!!!!!! and it is reasonably stiff, i only reccomend a sid if u are less that 170, it will flex a bit with heavier riders, for heavy riders get a Marzochii. they are the stiffedct forks around and you wont be dissapointed with it sure it weighs a little more, but so do u.
WINNER: sidrace
forks
WINNER: marscl
I been using Headshock (SL and Fatty ) they are great. (my fatty in my SV is 4 years old and never, i mean NEVER, need a mechanic or else) now i have a Mars in a Klein, and it is very good (just in us for for 3 months)
WINNER: other
XMO, screw manitou, rockshox, marzocchi, if any of them it would be the white brother, XMO rules.
WINNER: other
My Sugar 2 came with Manitou Mars OEM which I thought was pretty decent but after a few carshes I switched out to Marzocchi X-Fly 100 and I love it! It is a lot better on the bigger hits, more adjustable and maintenance free. Of course it is not a Z2 and costs more too but I like Zocchi better overall. As far as the other two forks I don't really have any experience with them, so no comments.
WINNER: z2fly
Mars forx would dye after the riding I do, Sids would dye too, White bros arn't well known enough... but I do like sum of their forx but the Zs Xfly rox!!!!!!! Every1 uses marzochi now... downhillers, Xcountry riders, dirtjumpers!!!! The new 2002 line of forx has everything!!!!!!!
WINNER: z2fly
Wow to peanutbutterman who just wrote in below mine..... a downhiller who doesn't use shocks but rigid.... splattering all over the place like peanut butter...... I can imagine what a downhill is like to him..... baaah!
As for me, Rockshox does their job..
WINNER: sidrace
Who needs shocks? You guys are all just a bunch of wimps. Rigid is the way to go. HUFFY'S RULE 4-EVER! peanutbutterman out.
WINNER: other
Manitou rules for shocks. Rock Shox has horrible quality control, i've had nothing but problems with them. Some people have good experiences, but it's like playing the lottery. With $600? I don't think so. Marzocchis are too heavy and the air system they use is sticky. Same with the Whites, they have to work on their damper. Manitous work great, are light, and have lockout which rules.
WINNER: marscl
Manitou all the way! XC4's just plain suck. Z2 XFly are okay, and so are Sid Race, but I'm sticking with Mars CL. And Headshock sucks as well.
WINNER: marscl
Cannondale lefty gets my vote but in close 2nd is the fox forx 100
WINNER: other
GROW SOME BALLS YOU XC PANSIES!!!! FREERIDING IS THE WAY TO GO!!!
Marzocchi Super T gets my vote.
go big or go home.
WINNER: other
Hmmm...Well Rock Shox Noodle Race, eh? Marzocchi Weighs-as-much-as-a-Bomber. Manitou rules, but who wouldn't want to pay six bills for a 60mm cross-country fork?
WINNER: marscl
Cannondale lefty elo
You will clear everything with confidence and climb everything competence
WINNER: other
i've tried all those forks and i think marzocchi is the number one best, MARZOCCHI ALL THE WAY!
WINNER: z2fly
The mars leaks, the xc4 breaks, and Marzocchis should be coil spring. SID winns. Light, Strong, now if only it had more travel. SID SL is better than the race.
WINNER: sidrace
I Own all except the XC4, my favorite is by far my XFLY.
WINNER: z2fly
Manitou has a great selection of light forks and i can't wait until they come out with the black forks. The only problem that i can find with them is that the seals suck. I work at Danville bike and as a retailer of manitou i see a lot of forks being sent back for seal and tpc dampening replacements. I don't know anything about white bros. haven't seen any around here. Marzocchi has real nice hydra coil systems but they are tooo heavy. Same with the air forks. I think the M-arch looks stupid aswell. My favorite choice out of the three that i have mentioned as far as air shocks is the Rockshox sids. They are light as hell and preform pretty well. i just wish there was some way to keep the seals in the danm things. Every five rides the seals like to pop out of my danm things. Personially I want to wait until Manitou comes out with the black but i will still go with the mars elite. Can't ask for a better bargen at $219 check it out online.
WINNER: other
ill take the sid all day and then maybe the marzocchi
WINNER: sidrace
mmm...marzocchi
WINNER: z2fly
Great Fork, much stiffer (laterally) then anything from another manufacturer. Great Looks also
WINNER: z2fly
all the big ass mofo downhill forks and the fat ass single crown forks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: other
I keep tryin and tryin and I can't push any marzocchi fork (even the entry level ones) to the limit!!!!!
WINNER: z2fly
White Bros. all the way....kinda like a Cadallac... but they suck up the power.....
WINNER: xc4
well, monster ts r the way to go, but otherwise Z5 for a budget(got a set 4 80�) so ill go Z2 x fly
WINNER: z2fly
mazzas are the best so i would av to chose em
WINNER: z2fly
Marzocchi Z2 XFly
WINNER: z2fly
Rock Shox SID Race is the best!!!
WINNER: sidrace
Fairly light, has lockout and a good amount of travel.
WINNER: marscl
Lite, dependable, easy to adjust, dependable... Rock Shock can't do downhill but they rule cross-country. I would love to see what Fox has up their sleeve(fox float 100 rlc)???
WINNER: sidrace
MARZZZZZZZZZZ!! Sids are to fragile, mars isn't worth the price, white bros aren't widly spread... BUT THE Z2'S ARE AFFORDABLE AND NEAR BULLET PROOF...
WINNER: z2fly
brake it in after that..........oh yeah. I've tried the Sid Race and don't like it, but it's light.
WINNER: z2fly
all sucks!
head shock ruls!!!
coil\oil abssorber are the best! simple and doesn't need maintainance
WINNER: other
booorah
WINNER: z2fly
i am hard on forks. I find sid's too flexy and high maintenance for my liking, but that is only by reputation. nevertheless, I know for a fact that the x-fly is an xcellent fork for maintenance, stiffness and strength but is missing one thing: smootheness. I think it is the best of the bunch for a weekend warrior like myself who thinks maintenance of a bike should be like maintaining a car.
WINNER: z2fly
z2 xfly in my mind beter than sid race but saying that i have onley raced with the x fly
WINNER: z2fly
For the longest time I would have gone with Marzzochi, but since my recent accident on a friends bike who had air forks, where the pins holding the two pieces of the fork together exploded. Ever since I've been hesitant to support them even though i know they make great forks. Manitou
WINNER: marscl
Marzocchi of course
Stronger-Better-Cheaper-Italian-Pritier
Rock-Shox sucks badly
Marzocchi baby yeah!!!! If there was the Z5 as an option i would choose it....
WINNER: z2fly
Manitou X-Vert Air - There is no substitute.
WINNER: other
Manitou Mars
WINNER: marscl
marazochi would be my pick because rock shock are lite but not strong, manitou flex way to much and white brothers are very good but weigh too much plus they dont have much travel.
WINNER: z2fly
Im cool
WINNER: xc4
I weightn almost 200 pounds and now i have SID 100 and i'm satisfied... Unfortunatly I don't have enough money for SID race... But The winner is RS SID RACE!
WINNER: sidrace
well i like manitou for there plush action and weight but there too soft for cross country you cant put them hard enought.i love marzocchi because there are air sprung ant very ridged but a little on the heavy side but they would be my choice.the sids are super light and are wery adjustable which i like but dont have the best damping.the white bros i like becaus they are air sprung,rigid and have a great oil bath and they are relitivly light.
WINNER: z2fly
MANITOU OFFERS THE MOST ADJUSTABILITY IN A STOCK FORK THAN ANY OTHER FORK ON THE MARKET,IN THAT THE PRELOAD, VALVING, LUBRICATION, AND EASE OF MAINTANENCE RQUIRES LITTLE TECHNICAL KNOW HOW. MINIMAL PARTS
A SEALED OIL CHAMBER, AND IMPACT RESISTANT RESIN INTERNALS MAINTAIN
OVERALL CLEANLINESS. WESTERN CANADA MANITOU TECH. JT.
WINNER: marscl
im cool
WINNER: z2fly
Gotta go with the headshok's!! They beat anything out there by far and they weigh a heck of a lot less. My full suspension super v is an x-large and the frame and fork weigh about 7.5lbs together! Most generic forks 3-4 lbs. and with a super light titanium hardtail frame that weighs 3.5 lbs. that's a lot of weight for about $1500 on two pieces of your bike. $1500 for a 6.5lb frame and fork?!?!?! and they say Cannondale is over-priced.....sheeesh!!
WINNER: other
Sure the Zokie weighs a little more, but as far as i'm concerned all the others are always trying to play catch-up with what Marzocchi has already achieved. sure they're a little heavier, but well worth the added heft.
WINNER: z2fly
Give up fiddling on your air forks.My Z-2 Atom 80 rides plusher than any other short-travel fork out there,requires little to no maintenance,and looks sweet on any bike(shame on Marzocchi for lying about the travel though).It weighs 3.7 lbs,but you never really feel the extra weight anyway.Coil is the best!
WINNER: other
Marzocchi Z1 QR20 all the way, baby! Fzuck lockout, learn to pedal! For DH? Rockshox Boxxer or Stratos S7. Boxxer w/6", S7 w/7".
WINNER: other
Sid race and the judy.They are kick ass shox.
WINNER: sidrace
Sid. Rockshox to stay....
WINNER: sidrace
XC air forks,eh?No thanks.Gimme a long-travel 'ZOCCHI.The SHIVER rules!
WINNER: other
I use a SID XC on both my bikes--a 2001 Kona Explosif and a Surly Rat Ride.I weigh 165 pounds,ride cross-country,and both forks are holding up fine.It isn't the stiffest fork out there but it is pretty plush and very easy to tune,which is more than I can say for the Marzocchi which is a nice fork but VERY HARD to adjust and full of stiction.If they improve the X-Fly it might be a good SID alternative,but for now RockShox's got the market cornered.
WINNER: other
marzocchi=hard core quality
WINNER: z2fly
MARS 1
WINNER: other
As a bike mechanic I have ridden and actually owned 3 out of the 4 and ripped the guts out of them all and in my opion go with out shock WORST TO BEST
1, White Bors xc4 They have a rep of being indistructuble but the shop I worked at sold 8 of them, 2 to the Owners all of ther had to come back because of a problem with nylon spacers getting deformed making the shock have high pre-load and almost no rebound they wiegh a ton and a half extreanly expensive and I also had to file the body of all disk mounted forks for disk clearence.
2,Rock shox sid sl-I don't like rocksox they will not do work on stock parts even if you pay on shox older than 2 years. second They are only for ultralight expert riders due to the fact that they so filmsy that you can't make mistakes with them or warrenty gess what you also have to pay all!! the shipping and handleing all outher companies will ship back to you for free.
3,Marzocci z2 xfly- the nicest stansions ever gives this fork buttry smooth action this co. has the best sliders in the bisness that where alot of the price is. If your are a bigger guy 200+ you need marzocci they also have the stiffest boddy and probably the least wear indused lateral play but the are a brick in a league of ultra ligths these are a full pound heavier than the sid or mars they also lack the adjustibility of sid or mars.
4, WINNER mars cl There is huge adjustibilty like the grease ports silky travle, light but do not recommend for heavier riders, over sized break arch adds ridigity anti bob there is still bob bit of a gimmic it needs handle bar mount
ALLWAYS USE BOOTIES AND IF YOU OWN A SHOX YOU HAVE NEVER REALLY USED PROPERLY IF YOU DO NOT GET A PRODUCT CALLED FORK FICTION
WINNER: marscl
i think that the z2 because of strenght and longevity between repairs...if the sid wouldn't need so much attention that would of got it though
WINNER: z2fly
Cannondale Head shock...Super...or Fatty beats them all
WINNER: other
As I have only used the Marzocchi, I am slightly biased and not a good judge for comparison, but I love this fork and have not had one problem et al.
WINNER: z2fly
Damn the air fork!! A properly sprung Manitou SXR (elastomer removed a full length sping installed) will provide a super plush ride.Weight you say.....get real.
WINNER: other
I think the marzocci Z2 XFly is the winner it has most likely the strongest coil and the best possible performance but the sid comes very close to all these.
WINNER: z2fly
The Marzocchi! Sure it weighs a little bit more but when it comes to stiffness, strenght, durability, and feel you can't beat it!
WINNER: z2fly
mmmm, floor pie.
WINNER: other
it's all about marzocchi's z1. what a beautiful piece of machinery. not for you xc's but perfect for all you freerider's and light downhillers.... even alright for you crazy mofo's. a little extra weight if you don't mind it... i don't! worked great in the collegate mountain season and just took care of all the dh's.... can we say plush? so beautiful... i love it
WINNER: other
Nice rebounding
strength, strength and strength
WINNER: z2fly
I like pie too.
WINNER: z2fly
Marzocchi Z2 xfly hands down!
WINNER: z2fly
Z2 Marzocchi rocks them all!
WINNER: z2fly
Z2's baby...stiff and stable. No surprises.
WINNER: z2fly
marzocchi is the only way to go!
WINNER: z2fly
XMO O2-ti. Works as good as any Sid (I have owned a few) for 1/3 the price. Find me a fork that works as well for $225 and will talk. Of course the XC4 if I had the money.
WINNER: other
i like pie
WINNER: other
None of the above, the lefty is much stiffer, somewhat lighter and still gives you 100mm travel. Nothing else can match it.
WINNER: other
anything less then 6" loses.
WINNER: other
FOES F-1 WET-ONE.......NOTHING BETTER
WINNER: other
necesito una dh nueva
WINNER: other
Well I think marzocchi takes the cake on this one. Over the years I have ridden forks from the companies here. Whitebros forks are beefy but they have seal problems and rock shox make their forks cheaply. and manitous just wear down quickly. Marz in on the ball this year like every year.
WINNER: marscl
They all suck! The only fork to buy is a SID XC. Light, plush, reliable.
WINNER: other
please i mean come on everyone nows that rockshox makes the best everything!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: sidrace
Well I had Mag 21, no travel but very accomodating, was quite impressesed never bottomed and took all the bumps with much control:)
NOW I HAVE THE MARZOCCHI Z-2 X Fly QR20 AND THEY ARE BAD ASS NOW THATS A FORK BABY, (any one kno the fattest tire thats fit the Z2?)
WINNER: z2fly
I use LOGAN and I'm very very happy!
WINNER: other
Excellent damping
smooth rebound
easy to mataince
WINNER: z2fly
Sid RAce baby!! only thing better is the 2001 sid SL wit the lock out baby!
WINNER: sidrace
If your good enought the sida are the only way to go! They are so light and very adjustable. people who don't like them don't know how to ride. They can't even figure out how to adjust it. Get the sid and adjust it to your riding style and your will be flying past the the other guys. Awesopme for a light weight bike such as the SC superlight which mine is on.
WINNER: sidrace
SID or Mars, hands down.
WINNER: sidrace
marzocchi is flat out the best. i have been burned by rock shox 3 times. they make the most unreliable product.
only drawback with bombers is the weight. i got a 97 z-2 that still rides plush. rode it in mud, rain, snow, ice, dust still good as new. change seals once a year. rock shit and mantitou. they suck.
if you race xcountry ride whatever sponsors you.
WINNER: other
Depends on what u ride....racers would want the rockshox.........hardcore crosscountry and stuff harder than that will want the bombers,....answer manitou is good for just ridin and racin to i guess.....white borhers???who needs em
WINNER: other
I THINK GAMME XE ARE THE BEST
WINNER: other
This thing rocks. Travel and response like no other
WINNER: z2fly
Front suspension is probably the most innovative in bicycle evoloution. I've tried a few bikes w/FS, but I chose Cannondales' HeadShok. Like the rotary engine...less moving parts are better and stronger. I did not experience the torsional stress associated with tandem shocks.
WINNER: other
white bro forks simply suck, sid bl