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Date: March 9, 2006
cormac a weekend warrior from austin, tx writes:
Manitou b/c it was free and isn't dead like the old banana yellow Judy I had
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
Bomber z2 Just does it for me plus it looks great!!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
It's all bollocks anyway...get yourself a road bike and ride for real!!!
WINNER: Other
This should be a no brainer...Marzocchi !!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomber z2's are sweet!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i think the bomber z2 takes it it is a very good fork.
WINNER:bomber z2
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I ga olg RockM. Adrenaline 3000 wit original Monitou, and I am really happy=) My brother have Monitou X-vert, carbon.. well, too hard for me, but you can feel a special magic on it. Anyway, it is very usefull when you ride from hill, from real downhill.
WINNER: Other
i think that the 2003 bamober marzzochi mz cmps i have are awsome there so comfortable
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I think the bomber is ten times better than any other fork. I ride ony on them and they work great
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bomber is the best
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Ok, all of these forks are worthless. You try to take these off road and you will die. Who in their right mind would ever buy one of these forks. Just look at them. They pretty much say flat out, "p. o. s."
Fox Forx would win any day. They are the best cross country fork ever made.
WINNER: Other
mach 5 ti hands down. More consistent travel, doesn't freeze up like the judy in COLD weather.
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
bomber z2 all the way!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i think the marazachi...i dont know about the manitou but probally not the judys
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I only ride Marzocchi, and would never ride anything else
WINNER: Bomber Z2
the bomber, next the mack 5, next the Judy SL
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Wife just bought the Gemini 900 w/Manitou 7" single-crown. On-sale, about $700 off. At 5'2" we were afraid the small was too bid a bike, but after today's 2-hour ride, she is totally sold on the long-travel manitou, even if it means giving up decent standover height. If you to live to ride, buy your wife a sweet ride and you'll tripple your trail time.
XXOO,
Brett
WINNER: Other
For Cross-country, nothing beats a FOX.
WINNER: Other
i love the red bomber z2 they r so cool would love to have them
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i think those suspension all sucks i have a huffy monster from walmart and the suspension kicks buttox all of those suspension systems suck because i have a huffy and huffys are the king
WINNER: Other
I think that all of those forks suck because i have a walmart fork that works better than all of them and i have friends with 1500 dollar suspension systems that have 200 mm and they suck mine has 25 mm and they rule
WINNER: Other
the bombers are going to win because they are!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i like the red one, is it good ?
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bombers are bloody god but i need triple clamps 4 my ruckus
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
I was hooked up with Manitou when the mach 5 was out - I ran a modified SX with just on 80mm travel (70mm stock, more like 65mm), and some tweaks with valving, seals, wipers and coil springs replacing the MCU's.
However, I couldn't keep cartridges, top caps or crown and stanchions up to it over about 1 season of DH racing.
I wish I could have gotten the Z2's instead, stiffer, stronger, better action - only downside being the front end sat a bit low with them on, making the bike a bit nervous. 4" travel Z1's graced my ride next and ruled.
I'll give it to the Z2, in hindsight. For the old manitou, I will say they didn't dive as bad under brakes, and were substantially lighter - oh and my tweaked set hauled arse when they were working.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I have been the proud owner of a Z2 Light (ltd. edition polished silver) since '98. Nothing else comes close to a Bomber as far as performance is concerned: they are ridiculously plush, corner impeccably and soak up everything in their path. I've taken them down most of the best downhills in the Alps (les Gets, Chateau d'Oex, Metabief, Chamonix valley) and can only report positive (generally ecstatic) experiences.
Oh, and on the service front the oil has only been changed once. Nothing else. They're still just as smooth as they were 6 years ago. That's how reliable and durable they are.
I fully recognise that the Z2 is now an "old fork" but nevertheless wish to pay my respects to a legendary piece of engineering which will hopefully continue to serve me well for many years to come.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
the Z2 is better. it also looks cool.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
the bomber is the bomb! and thats all there is to it, those other forks just dont work, ROCKSHOX sux they blow out and dont take the little stuff
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Marzocchi is far suppior in my opinion to any competitors out there. I have ridden rock shox, manitou and others aswell. I have not found any that compare to my marzocchi air Bomber MXC. It isn't the Z2, but it is the same brand. I am a firm believer that marzocchi is the best shock for the money.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i have the bomber z3 light they are great just starting to up grade my bike was thinking about different shocks rode some i think i will stay with the bombers
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bombers are better
Z3 light with 63mm travel!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
never tried it but I know that bomber shocks are very high quality
WINNER: Bomber Z2
One of the most beautiful forks evre built
WINNER: Judy SL
I am gonna buy a Scott Voltage YZ0 (i am 13) and that has bomber z2 shoks
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Come on, stop messing around. Pace RC Range are the best!!!
WINNER: Other
all these forks are well old. i think by now you should be using some marazzochis.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
get serious guys and get something with travel. thats the point of suspension so get sumthin like a marzocchi z-1 or super-t
WINNER: Other
BomberZ2 without a doubt.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bomber z2
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because the sprigs donot bkake so easely and it si verry light
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
Judy sl Judy sl Judy sl end of story.
WINNER: Judy SL
I'm Rock's fan but the the Judy sucks :)so the bomber would be my purchase comes up 1st :)
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Rigid forks are for psycho killers.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
marzochi have the strength and durability plus easier maintenance
WINNER: Bomber Z2
MAYBE ITS TIME TO UPDATE... NOT A SINGLE FORK HERE IS LESS THAN 6 YEARS OLD THE MANITOU IS 7!!!! THEY ARE ALL ANTIQUES THAT YOU COULD NOT BUY NOWADAYS ANYWAY. I WAS 7 WHEN THESE FORKS CAME OUT!!!!
WINNER:
there all old go for something new with a little bit of travel like a super monster T.......................
WINNER: Other
i'll take my super t's thank u.
WINNER: Other
once again rock shox suck i would go with the bombers any day but i own manitou
WINNER: Bomber Z2
despite the datedness of this comparison, id jsut liek to say that marzocchi bombers are bombproof....wicked good damping, prgressive travel, and hardly any flex make them friggin awesome.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Since Im on cost cutting, I'd rather buy an RST or an MOB, they have the same performance as this forks.
WINNER: Other
bomber Z2
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I think the bombers are the best freestyle shocks
WINNER: Bomber Z2
The Bobmber would win this contest, but Fox is the best.
WINNER: Other
These shocks pictured are all 6-7 years old ! You can't get parts for most shocks over 3 years old. All recent fork technology is worlds away from these. Fox Forx are on the cutting edge.
WINNER: Other
Marzocchi bomber : RockShox - 2:0 !!!!
Marzocchi b. : Manitou - 1:0
Manitou : RockShox - 1:0
WINNER: Bomber Z2
My K2 came. with a rockshock... Perhaps I didn't know enough about bikes then and the dealer didn't give a rat's ass. "Sport's Expert" Gobble Yak cum. Anyways...I rode for a season and a half with the rockshock. Then bought a bomber... What a difference. Needs next to no maintance, is easy to maintance and just feel/looks head and shoulders more stable than the Rockshit.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomber Z2
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I say that the bombers win!!!! I will give you 120$ (canadien) for the bombers! write me back quickly please!!!
WINNER:
I've had the opportunity to try the Bomber Z2 and the Judy SL. Sorry, but Marzocchi takes this one way above the rest... don't waste your money on the others.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
it is stiffer and better for freeriding
WINNER: Bomber Z2
marzocchi makes the better fork in this case but they all are like 3 years old this place needs to get newer forks!!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
MARZOCCHI! Especially when it come to the lower priced models. Marzocchi has exceptional quality throught its line, just look at how clean and powerful it looks compared to the 5ti and the Judy.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Judy sl are the best,but the bomber Z2 look amazing.
WINNER: Judy SL
WHATS UP I THINK THEIR GREAT
WINNER: Bomber Z2
WHATS UP I THINK THEIR GREAT
WINNER: Bomber Z2
marzocchi are the best, roch shoxs are pants and should not be sold i hate them and have had nasty experiances with them
WINNER: Bomber Z2
marzocchi r the best ...even the crapest marzocchi fork is ten times better than the best fork of any other fork companies.
i rest my point ...MARZOCCHI!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Antiques are for collecting, not riding
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Forget all others, Fox Forx are the only way to go!All of the forks listed are crap update this site with modern forks.
WINNER: Other
I think the Judy SL are amazing. I would love to have them
WINNER: Judy SL
marzocchi has been making the best forks i have every used
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i think the bomers are the best cas of the travel and durability and i will stand by bomer shocks for my life!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I think that the bomers should win because that they are al ways so far ahead of all the other companies.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomers shoud win this one because they rule
WINNER: Bomber Z2
My judgement is thta marzochi is the best out there, i used to be a rock shox fan but i made my switch when i watched a man bend his almost in half ever since then i switched to marzochi (dj3).as for mach 5s they just suck.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
'tsall about the bombers! all the way. best brand on the market! yeah marzo!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bombers are indestructible..... real bomb proof
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bombers are indestructible..... real bomb proof
WINNER: Bomber Z2
NO ONE CAN BEAT MARZOCCHI-- any model!!! THEY JUST SIMPLY RULE!!! The rest...are just simply "front forks" to me. But MARZOCCHI, they're just simply amazing!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
the Z2 bam is amazing. after dislocating both shoulders nothing can compare. replacing the seals is often but well worth it.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
these are all outdated forks .dual crowns rule!esp my hanebrinks!
WINNER: Other
Others are bull shit
WINNER: Bomber Z2
rs judy sl stiff
WINNER: Judy SL
Bomber dude nuff said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Rock shox indy s !!! the performance is outstanding , they are not expensive compared to the obvious winner : Bomber's , but they use all the travel they come with (55mm) .why spend 500$ an a shock youll only use half its travel? when you can spend 70$ and get an indy s? for example : brake ; use 3/4 of your travel . ride off a sidewalk curb : use 100% travel...im just using real world riding conditions here "folks"
Nah , if i had the money ide buy a bomber , even the cheapest of the line EXR's , because they are amazing. one day ill upgrade because my indy s (for real) are ready to die .I am scared of that day because they will probably just fall off while im riding...
oh yeah rock shox :sux
WINNER: Bomber Z2
test
WINNER: Bomber Z2
WHOA!.... This is like some weird timewarp....When these forks came out they were just so much better than the shonky elastomer-filled, no-damper rubbish we had before, they were a MUST HAVE upgrade, remember that?
I had some Bombers briefly, but the airspring leaked enough from new that I had to pump them up every day. I soon got very bored of this. They were also rather heavy. They did ride well though. A friend kept his a little bit longer and found the bushings wore out, which was also rather tedious.
I still have a set of Manitou SX-Ti's which are similar to the Mach 5 Ti's, and they are OK; the ride has never been very plush, but the ride suits fast work on less-rugged terrain, or maybe racing. The cartridge damper makes for easy maintenance, but it isn't very well designed, and has given a few problems. The seals were never very good either, but overall, the fork has basically lasted OK with careful maintenance.
I also have a yellow Judy SL. This originally retailed for 599 quid in the UK. Yes, that is right, FIVE HUNDRED and NINETY NINE flippin' quid, ie about 750USD. I would rather have hammered nails through sensitive parts of my anatomy than let my wallet bleed THAT badly. I got mine secondhand, and I've put a lot of miles on them. They were light alright, but that was about it. Over time, I have had to replace EVERY SINGLE PART inside these forks, because it broke or just wore out. When I saw what happened to the originals, I knew I was not going to put identical replacements back inside because the same thing would only happen again. I thought, 'I can design and make parts that will work better and last longer than these' so that is exactly what I did. They now have rising rate springs, an open bath speed-sensitive damper system, and give 90mm of really plush travel, and I no longer have to pig about or fiddle with them in any way. Job's a good'un, finally...
Overall, each of these forks was good in different ways in its day, but in four or five years things have come on so far there is no comparison with the latest top end designs.... I mean, you would walk right past these in the shop to get at the new stuff, even if they were half the cost, right?
Plus ca change, plus le meme chose.....
WINNER: Other
rox shocks that cheap have to shite
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Have tried others but the Bomber just keeps going and going and going. I only get it serviced because I feel guilty that I leave it for so long. I would have had 2 or 3 rebuilds on the others. The Bombers have had nothing replaced in 3yrs of riding nearly everyday.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
all of these shock suck, none have even 5 wimpy inches of travel.
WINNER: Other
friends dont let friends ride rockcrap... love the feel of my zokes
WINNER: Bomber Z2
friends dont let friends ride rockcrap... love the feel of my zokes
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Zokes all the way, bombproof, excellent customer service unlike Manitou, and unbelievable performance. If there were 5 flaming shits, Zokes would fulfill!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I've never seen these forks before! Are they new prototypes?! Why isn't the Halson Inversion fork one of the choices? What about the Lawill Leader? Hmmm...I just can't keep up with all this new fork technology. I guess I'll go with the Bomber.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
no contest. Of the three shown, the Z2 is a step above.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
boxxer is best
WINNER: Other
i think that all the shox are decent but not great but still the bombers would top from that selection.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
2 old, man i know the judy Rock/Shox and SID but these tree are old stuff,.. so if i had to chose one i would take bomber z2 and second the judy, i don't like manitou
WINNER: Bomber Z2
What, is this some sort of joke or internet time travel? Manitou still makes available a Mach 5? A Marzocchi with the old arch? I think they still make a Judy tho....clear winner? Marzocchi of course.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
who cares to answer such an old question?
WINNER:
mm, lets see, really old forks? circa 1995? what about a mag 10? it worked fine..the older the better
WINNER: Other
Been riding marzocchi for a while, compared to others, its much stronger, dependable and requires less maintenance..
WINNER: Bomber Z2
marzocchi is the best
WINNER: Bomber Z2
All these forks are worthless pieces of shit that belong on Costco bikes. Maybe they can be handled on a huffy. Either way marzocchi is the king of all forks. I bow in there presence
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Come on guys, we all know that the Sid Rules. As the CEO of Rock Shox, I have made alot of money of you poor saps. Sure the shock is alittle expensive and a piece of SHIT but doesn't it look good. You have any questions or complaints about your shock, feel free to call me at home (872)546-screwed
WINNER: Judy SL
When was the last time this site was, like, updated?
WINNER: Other
There is no competition The Z2 walks away from these two dual pogosticks. Ive had mine for years and have changed seals and bushings once.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
becuse rock shucks and mant is just crap plain and smimple
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i like marzocchi fork very much!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Marzocchi all the way everything, else is JUNK
WINNER: Bomber Z2
RIDGED? so where is the Vicious Cycle Ridged Fork?
WINNER: Other
zochis are god shox
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I have ridden the judy sl wich was a fine shock. It did its job well. But I UPGRADED to a Zocchi Z2 Atom Race and WOW! its like Butta! super smooth plush action, Tracks strait, no flex, super stiff and I love the 30mm stantions. The adjustment knoba for compression and rebound damping actually do something to change your ride unlike the judy. Hands down the Marzocchi Bomber Z2 Atom Race is the shock to have!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Marzocchi shocks are bomb-proof. They are the toughest shocks I've ever ridden. I ride a 2001 Bomber Z2 Atom Race right now, it's a beautiful thing.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i have had all of these shox on my bike and the bombers have lasted the long�st and are the best for your money.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Wot a crap comparison. Like with like would be Z2 vs. SID. That would be a tie.
WINNER: Other
they work better
WINNER: Bomber Z2
no contest its the z2 all the way baby
WINNER: Bomber Z2
The bomber are definately the best if you can afford them.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomberz2 by far if u can afford them buy them the others are shitty compared to the bomberz2s
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bombers are the best
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Just put a Z2 Atom Race (2001, 80mm) on my Moots YBB, and loved the fork immediately. After I put in a "heavy" rated spring in one leg (after experimenting with the new springs in both) I liked it even better, especially from a quality-construction point of view. This fork's guts kicks ass on the innards of my old Manitou Xverts. I had most recently on the Moots a 99 Marzocchi 70mm (65?) Xfly which I loved, more for the stiffness as wasn't too impressed with the spring/plush factor, but coils on the Atom are the s**t. Now I'm looking for a 100mm coil Marzochhi for my Heckler. A buddy has the coil MXR on his Steelman and raves (as of course do most of my friends about their Marzocchi coils, NOW I know what they mean!).
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Gotta be the Zocch. I've had a couple of Judy's (a 99 XC and a 00 Race), an old Manitou FS and an 01 SX, and am currently riding an 01 Z3. The Zocch is deffinately the best of all of them. Stiffer, easier to maintain, more reliable, and the most fiddle free fork I've owned. I'll take a Marzocchi any time.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i have rock shocks Judy's Sl and i find that they work but that they are not very good for drops and big launches. I think now that i am going to go buy Z 2"s because they are better for jumps.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bomber Z2 maybe is the best, but if you compare the price and quality you will see that Rock Shox has better specs for lower price. I am very impressed with my Judy SL. I vas thinking about buying a Bomber but I decieded that they are just not worth the money.
P.S. This guy Mirko Slani, must be joking. He probably rides some Turkish bike and has no expirience yet.
WINNER: Judy SL
Bomber z2 is the best. what shity manitou!!! BOMBER RULES!!!!!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bombers look nicer so they probley are better
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Give me a break. The Rock Sucks and Manipoo won't last a year!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I haven't used any of the other. But what i do know is that every bike shop will tell you that all of their employees who can afford a BOMBER have one. My bomber is getting its second oil change and new seals, and its about 3 years old, it takes abuse. Its saved my arss. They are highly costomizable, and cause they are oil-spring you don't have to worry about really cold days changing the ride feel(elastomers have problems with this). not to mention don't need any air pumps.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Screw this junk. Go get a Fox.
WINNER: Other
bomber jr ts rock
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i've had my z2 BAM for 4 years, and it is still smoother (and maybe stiffer) than the one month old psylo on my freeride bike. on my old xc bike. i had a judy on my old xc bike. there is no comparison. marzocchi is the best for xc, freeride, and dh in my opinion. marzocchi all the way.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
ROCK SHOX KICK ASSSSSSSSSSS ALL THE WAY ROCK SHOX!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: Judy SL
I have two Judy SL's on my garage shelf if anyone wants a used one. I ran them for a few years and recently upgraded to Marzocchi's. I rate the Marz. the top of the shock food chain....
WINNER: Bomber Z2
The bomber wins hands down, it's heavier but it's smoother and will take more abuse. The mach 5 is not a bad fork, but the judy, well it's a RS product.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Marizocchi Z1 MCR forks with 5" travel, lockout, and rebound control. Better and wider range of adjustability for rebound control and easier lockout than any other manufacturer. Better stiffness for more precise shock absorbtion and wheel tracking. Smoother travel and better damping than Judy SL. Much better reliability than Rock Shox spotty track record. And the true test...I dropped off a 7 foot ledge onto flat concrete bottoming out my Z1 forks and Fox Float RC rear shock and broke my bike but both fork and rear shock were fine and neither has ever leaked or degraded in performance! The only true way to rate a product is to push it to it's limits in real situations...and these forks have out-performed any other forks I have seen. I have broken 2 different Rock Shox forks on 3 and 4 foot drops, so if these Marizocchis can take double that and still not break, there is no comparison in my mind.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
screw 'em all! Go rigid you pansies!!!
WINNER: Other
judy sl
WINNER: Judy SL
I use a Judy Fork - she handles like a limo.
The original and the BEST.
WINNER: Judy SL
for jumping get a manitou black and for DH get a set of shivers
WINNER: Other
Marzocchi rule.... erm rockshox 2002 are so similar 2 2001 and i've nvr heard of mach 5...
WINNER: Bomber Z2
too bad that all thes shox suck in the nut hell...........
WINNER: Other
The bomber rocks
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bombers all the way theres no compitison. Bombers are the #1 downhill but [shivers are better].
WINNER: Other
bombers all the way theres no compitison. Bombers are the #1 downhill but [shivers are better].
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I'm a Clydesdale. I get no flex from the Bomber. With the Xtra heavy springs installed they work like a charm. Just set it and forget it.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
BOMBER ARE BETTER
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I use a Z2 ATOM 80, is there a better fork, I think not.
The weight is no problem for the average rider
WINNER: Bomber Z2
The Judy SL's are a magic fork. They have a comfortable travel and a rapid rebound. They are brilliant for XC but are cleary shit at any sort of DH. But that's not what they are built for. Personally, they suit my needs and I couldn't ask for any more. Excellent!!!!
WINNER: Judy SL
I like the Judy SL. Nothing more.
WINNER: Judy SL
Bomber is the best. Its got such smooth and plush travel. Plus it looks the best.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Marzocchi all the way
WINNER: Bomber Z2
The judy sl is an excellent shock that provides great comfort whilst jumping and excuting drop offs. excellent travel mixed with excellent durability. Mach 5 ti good but not good enough.cheers
WINNER: Judy SL
I've ridden on both Manitou's and Rock Shox and they are both great shocks. I have to lean toward the Rock Shoxs for the simple fact that the Judy feels more plush. If your riding front suspension, it might as well be coush. The Judy has also been more stable for me as the Manitou felt like there was a little play from side to side. The Verdict: Judy SL.
WINNER: Judy SL
I've ridden on both Manitou's and Rock Shox and they are both great shocks. I have to lean toward the Rock Shoxs for the simple fact that the Judy feels more plush. If your riding front suspension, it might as well be coush. The Judy has also been more stable for me as the Manitou felt like there was a little play from side to side. The Verdict: Judy SL.
WINNER: Judy SL
i think there are bether
WINNER: Bomber Z2
All three are decent forks, but the Marzocchi is ahead of competition. The materials used in the Bombers is way better than Manitou. I also have a RockShox Judy, it's okay, but needs heavier springs and isn't as plush as the Marzocchi.
The amount of travel is identical but the Marzocchi feels like it has an extra inch hidden somewhere. My next fork is a Jr.T (I'm going to sell my left-kidney)
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Id have to say the Bomber becaue this is a comparidson of long travel forks and the bomber owns that market.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
the rock shock judy sl i have the 2002 modle ND IT IS A GOOD ALL AROUND SHOCK. The bomber z2 is also a vary good shock i have ridden many miles on bombers and they are also vary good but are a little stiff for some one lite like me. the mach 5s are good so i have heard i have never tried manitous before but i have herd good things about them. but over all I just have to go with the judy sl because it just great!
WINNER: Judy SL
!!BOMBER!! I had a Judy on my Giant nrs XTC and wasn't too impressed. It had lots of flex and felt really springy. Bought a Z2 Atom 80. No comparison. Sucks up the hits like no tomorrow.
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becoause ther the best
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Light, plush, works great, inexpensive! Need I say more?
WINNER: Judy SL
I persoanlly like the RS line. The judy is a great low end racin fork. That is my top pick. I do like manitous and Marzochis too, the marzochie is light and is very smooth, but the Judy is just better!
WINNER: Judy SL
ive tried using the judy sl and it sucs. to get the change in travel u have to take the fork apart. a friend of mine tried to do that and completly screwed up costing him a bit of cash to have it rebuilt. stic with the best :Manitou
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
well all of these forks shown are garbage!
-z2 atom bomb is some flexy piece of garbage . no travel . feels like junk and costs alot
rating: 2/5
-judy sl , the one shown , has crappy cartridges that blow up and make the fork suck ass . but it looks cool , works half decently and has disc tabs and no flexing
rating :3/5
-mach 5 ...geez... that fork came on my trek y5. that is oooold stuff. but it looks cool and is so easy to overhaul , which is a advantage
over the two other forks shown
rating : 3/5
well ... these forks all suck and are damn old. but i recall the mach 5 worked the best . then again , just buy a psylo and be happy
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
hahaha..hehe..ho..uh, oh.. Bombers are stiffer, smoother, more progressive, superperbly tunable and off course, hella-cool!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
White Bothers is the only real Cross country shock
WINNER: Other
Is anyone else wondering why there are forks from four years ago here? How about an X-Fly and a Mars Elite? Sorry Rock Shox, but you've always lost the cross-country stiffness game. Hey John from Columbia, I'm glad someone still rides Crack'n'Fail. Yo, Jo-Burg! Next time I go home to Zim I'll give you a call, we could ride the Chimanimani's or the Drakensburg!
WINNER: Other
cannondale lefty sucks go for the old rock shox indy
WINNER: Judy SL
I have had used the Judy SL, I found them to flexy for a 200+ lb rider, tested the Manitous (not Mach 5 ti) but just did not like them, nothing in particular. I settled on Bomber Z1's (2000 models) which are on my bike now. These are fantastic and well worth the extra dollars, you can get great deals on them now as old stock is being moved out. They are stiff, almost maintenance free, look very good and work exceptionally well which is the main point. Alothough they are not the Z2 that would be my choice out of this group.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Z2 all the way
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I Love the judy sl 2001, it looks cool, is very adjustable, and it has " all travel" which you can adjust the fork from 63-80-100 mm of travel.
The Judy rules
WINNER: Judy SL
I like my Judy's a lot, they've worked very well for me for almost 2 years now.
WINNER: Judy SL
this is an easy one. i have a norco with the bomber Z2. i only bottomed them out once doing a 7'1/2' drop. there the most hard core shock ive tryed. so i would say Z2s win 110%
WINNER: Bomber Z2
This is a friggin no brainer!!!!!!!!! Bomber all the way!!!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i have kona stinky(2001) they have bomber z5 130mm(5in) they fu'ken rule the only time i have bottomed them out is off 9 stair and they are as soft as hell yet stiff as, and these are bottom of the range i cant even begin to wonder how good z2's would be
WINNER: Bomber Z2
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i like manotou too but my friend have a schwinn mobb2 with a manitou magnum but its not verry good
and if i have a manitou march 5 i will arivver with that on my bicycle just to do my show off in front of him joke guyz
but manitou is cool too
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
i have a Trek fuel 98 and i have a bomber z-5 130 mm i think its better then all other kind of shock because bomber is the better
i have try a judy sl and i like more my bomber z-5 then that.
Bomber its the best
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I love my girlfriends bombers. They are bloody huge! Wouldn't life be nice if you could buy marazocchi cannons!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Manitou nice, but bombers rock!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bomber z.2! Mine? 2 years w/ no majior maint. just majior punishment and only now is it up for a rebuild. Really the judy and mach are flexy, wimpy, if you are going to need a fork for anything serious, get a bomber. Marzochi is the best all around coil/oil fork made. Air is another story best told by weight freaks who like to work on bikes instead of ride them. Or those fortunate few who race for a living.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
How about SR Suntours? heh
WINNER: Other
I love the Judy because it handles anything I can throw at it. And when you weigh 200lbs you can throw quite a lot at it. I have smashed into some huge bumps and bottom out only slightly.
WINNER: Judy SL
So far I have only had a set of rock shox and they work fine just riding easy but when u start hitting jumps theyre flimze and I bottom out all the time My brother has a bike with manitou shox and he says he's never bottomed them out before however I ve heard good things about marocchi and I don't no which are better so for now manitou
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
Gotta go with the headshok's!! They beat anything out there by far and they weigh a heck of a lot less. My full suspension super v is an x-large and the frame and fork weigh about 7.5lbs together! Most generic forks 3-4 lbs. and with a super light titanium hardtail frame that weighs 3.5 lbs. that's a lot of weight for about $1500 on two pieces of your bike. $1500 for a 6.5lb frame and fork?!?!?! and they say Cannondale is over-priced.....sheeesh!!
WINNER: Other
The Manitou suck and I never tried the Judy SL but all the judy that I have tried were to firm
WINNER: Bomber Z2
2001 Judy Sl all the way.
I have never tried the Z2, but I know that the manitou locks up when it gets cold, and the knob broke off my old manitou. My Judy is like butter and is the plushest 80mm i have ever ridden.
WINNER: Judy SL
the Bombers will WIN!!!!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I have a 2001 Judy SL that came on my Trek 8000 hardtail. It is special, If I wanted a motorcycle fork Id get a bomber. New school Judy all the way...
WINNER: Judy SL
ive never ridden any of these forks but i have used judy xc's which suck ass, older rock shox which were even worse, and ive heard nothing but bad things about manitous, except fot dorados. But i know that my marzocchi z1's kick ass, and all my friends that ride use z1's asa well and they all like them.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
c'mon!!! Rigid cro-mo all the way!!!(i'm on a back to the 80's trip!)
or a Rock Shox BoXXer 7" bouncy bouncy!!
WINNER: Other
Bomber And Judy All the way But bobmer First
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Judy Sl, ti hardware, oil bath, Englunds, Enduro wipers. Man these things are so much niver (stiffer, more adjustable) than a SID, and compares to any mid travel marzocchi. But if you add up the cost, its about the same but a little lightere and flexier. But the judy has been a 3 year project and im happy now, so its the SL for long lasting durability (w the wipers).
WINNER: Judy SL
ya judy sl
WINNER: Judy SL
anything less than 6" loses!
WINNER: Other
I own a Judy XC and Bomber Z2 Bam, and the Judy is useless. The Z2 is plush and functional! It works!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Marzocchi! Ever thought of anything else??
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Z2 Bomber all the way, no weak imitations thank you
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i like the bombers but i have to go for the judy sl
WINNER: Judy SL
out of those i would perfer the bombers although i ride SIDs and they are the BEST!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
marzocchi is the best.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Well all in all these are good forks...i have a 2001 judy fork wich i like..........i would say the judy for xc........bomber for xc and ruff drop offs and stuff and the manitou for wrace and ride...but all in all these all work about the same
WINNER: Other
Bomber z2 cant really say much more kick ass fork a bit slow though
WINNER: Bomber Z2
God,these forks are ancient!I wouldn't buy any of 'em(get something new),but if you have an old Z2 Bomber,KEEP IT!They're still a kickass fork!!COIL/OIL REIGNS SUPREME!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Pace RC30 is the only way to go, not for the faint of heart though !!
Hard as a brick !!!
Mace is a poser!
WINNER: Other
i like the plushness of the bommers they absorbe both litle and big bumps
WINNER: Bomber Z2
YOU XC'ERS SU
You would have to be mad or ignorant to select anything but a Bomber, plush, reliable and functional in a way that is beyond the capacity of the other companies to even understand. If you are complaining about the weight, why don't you work on your leg muscles? Rock Shox... they're just pogo sticks...
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomber z.1 drop off QR20 or monster-t
WINNER: Other
freins dont let freins ride rock sh*it
WINNER: Bomber Z2
For those who don't know what bomber means:Marzocchi is the bigger fork manufacturer in italy,it makes forks for motorcross,enduro,mountain bikes etc.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I have an Atom Bomb Z2. It's heavy, it's puke green..and it works like a fork should. Plush travel, very minimal flex. Perfect. I can't speak for the Manitou but the Judy I had before the Z2 was a joke. The damping adjustment didn't work, the travel was anything but smooth(even with Judy butter), and the fork flex was excessive to the point of negatively affecting tracking control over rough trails. That was the 1997 model, and since then I hear the innards are very different, hopefully much better.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bombers are soooo much smoother than anything else. Most of my friends have Judys. When I get on their bikes the fork just feels kind of like a toy compared to the Marzocchi.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
No Contest - bombers rule. Easier to maintain, better mud clearing (and we got LOTS of mud here)and nothing is as plush. Everybody here has a bomber or wishes they did.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
rock shoxx
WINNER: Other
I can't speak to the others, but myfirst year on the Z2 Bomber was great!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Anything is better than a flexy rockshox
WINNER: Other
You have to be a retard to blow the judy SL cartridge. People who take a 2.9 lb. cross country fork on a 6 foot drop qualify as retards. If you rdie the SL for what it was designed for, it is simply the best. I weigh 230, ride it hard, AND rebuild the cartridge every season as the manual suggests (retards also don't read instructions) and it has NEVER blown, nor has it lost its plushness. Its the lightest, its feel is perfect for cross-country, and its product support is the best bar none. Unlike some of the other manufacturers who like to make "multi-use" forks, Rockshox makes specialized models. The SL is a superb fork if used within its limits. If you want an overweight, schitzo biker-friendly, son of frankenstien fork, the others will do.
WINNER: Judy SL
Nothing compares to Manitou. Some say it is below Rock Shox, but i have friends who own the SID fork and you have to tune it with a very pain in the ass process, plus after a regular use and less than 3 months using it the shafts got loose and so the rubber seals. It is made just for 1 day riding. With Manitou is different, it is almost 100% manteinance free. Just a matter of marketing.
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
They are very reliable.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Timeless reliability and function without all the race hype. White Bros. fork on my hardtail is equally impressive.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Try it youll like it. LEFTY On a Jekyll frame.
WINNER: Other
Try it youll like it. LEFTY On a Jekyll frame.
WINNER: Other
rockshox all the way. good service/tech support and they have a good reputation. plus, they are lighter and
WINNER: Judy SL
I rode a judy 100 for the better part of last season on a steel frame. It was the balls for a couple of months and then it developed allot of play in the right stanchon..I took it apart to find out the bushings are nothing but pressed metal rings with a light coating of teflon on the inside! JUNK! GO STRATOS! I'm on the right track this year. FR4/5 baby.
WINNER: Other
Bomber is a great shock but Judy is a legend, very reliable.
WINNER: Judy SL
Bomber is a great shock but Judy is a legend, very reliable.
WINNER: Judy SL
bombers are very smooth, strong and a very good looking fork
WINNER: Bomber Z2
i think the manitou's are much better cause i think they have little bob when u pedal hard and i have had all of those shox above and i just found that the manitou's are much better performing
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I prefer the Bomber Z2
WINNER: Bomber Z2
looks, plusher
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Mach 5 ti (shit)rough as hell. Judy sl better but still shit. Ahhhhhhh bomber z2 smooth as butter.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bomber's rule, I just bought a pair. Z2 all the way.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomber rules but manitou is cool not the mach 5
WINNER: Bomber Z2
For the riding I do, Only the Bomber will do!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomber of course! what's the matter with you?
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bomber Z2 rule, smooth, plush and durbale. Top Stuff!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I need to by a RockShok suspention kit, Indi XC, who can give me a adress to by online.
WINNER: Other
Bombers are the better overall choice. Everyone has their own opinion as for feel. I prefer the bombers.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Good alrounder, excellent repsonce through the whole range movement. Plus they take a betting aposed to judy's which ive seen and heard some stories of expesive carnage. Manitou??? no one uses them do they?
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Good alrounder, excellent repsonce through the whole range movement. Plus they take a betting aposed to judy's which ive seen and heard some stories of expesive carnage. Manitou??? no one uses them do they?
WINNER: Bomber Z2
GO JUDY
WINNER: Judy SL
Bomber Bomber and Bomber
WINNER: Bomber Z2
ajustability of manitous, stiffness of bombers and that little sticker that says rock shox and you'll get a perfect fork
WINNER:
Bomber Z2's Are Smooth & Good Looking
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Rigid. Feel the bumps. Pick a better line. Lighter, better steering, more control in technical sections.
WINNER: Other
WINNER: Bomber Z2
tried cheap rockshox and expensive sids...then tried cheap marzocchi's and expensive z1's (aswell as others) and i think that the marzocchi's win hands down. I think rockshoxs are better for small hit bumps but your gonna get the occassional big bump and they dont seem half as good as the marzocchis. The marzocchis weigh more but there no point in a fork that weighs real light but is so light it carnt do its job proberly for lack of compression, rebound or speed sensitivity. the marzocchis seem excellent value for more these days aswell.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Marzocchi. It works nice, it's heavy and it won't break. unlike those leaky judy's and death-to-all bushings Answer/manitous
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I have raced the Manitou Ti and the Judy Sl. After one year on both i felt that the Manitou was stiffer, but the Judy felt more smooth in its stroke. The problem with the Judy is the cartridge which will blow up when ridden hard. That problem is now solved with the Hydracoil.
WINNER: Judy SL
I'm a long-time motorcycle guy. I know suspension from an engineering side. The last stint was 13 years of Observed Trials. Marzocchi forks were on many of my bikes. Coming into bicycles, I was surprised to find them a strong force. What they have done is take simple motorcycle technology and crossed over to MBs. I can tell you from experience that it is plain hard to beat coil over oil first, and air over oil second. Elastomers and non oil dampeners just can't measure up, no matter how high tech they sound. I have Judy XC Hydracoil forks on my bike, and Bomber X.3 on another. The Bombers are way more plush!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
None the only way to go for forks is STRATOS, nothing else.
WINNER: Other
Me white bros upside down fork kicks all the forces combined
WINNER: Other
The BOMBER Z2`s are a heaps better fork due to the removable brake arch its give more flex while giving them a hiding, where the rockshox and manitou have jack shit flex due to the crappy moulded brake arch.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
There is no doubt. This is no contest. Can ANYONE from ANY camp find ANY fault with the Marzocchi's? NEVER.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Judy SL with 85mm englunds, oil bath kit, Ti hardware and enduro wipers. Manitou can kiss mah ass.
WINNER:
Z-2 whoops both their butt cheeks
WINNER:
simply the best n the list
WINNER: Judy SL
I say Bombers because they are one of the strongest,smothest, and adjustable shocks.You know why because i use them.
WINNER: Judy SL
I'm a long-time motorcycle guy. I know suspension from an engineering side. The last stint was 13 years of Observed Trials. Marzocchi forks were on many of my bikes. Coming into bicycles, I was surprised to find them a strong force. What they have done is take simple motorcycle technology and crossed over to MBs. I can tell you from experience that it is plain hard to beat coil over oil first, and air over oil second. Elastomers and non oil dampeners just can't measure up, no matter how high tech they sound. I have Judy XC Hydracoil forks on my bike, and Bomber X.3 on another. The Bombers are way more plush!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
2.9 pounds COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: Judy SL
BOMBER z2 is GILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!werty's
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
Simply...the best ride.
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
I would vote for a Rockshox psylo cause they r the best ---ing forks I`ve ever owned. So in the words of Pa Grumpy, go and git screwed ya gooses!
WINNER: Other
Bomber all the way.. way plush, and very smooth..
WINNER: Bomber Z2
ZOKES ALL THE WAY, ATOM BOMB Z2 ALL THE WAY.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I recently upgraded a Jett T2 on my 99 Fisher with a 98 Marzocchi Z2 BAM. WOW..what a difference! I must admit my Jett was a pretty decent fork and I was leaning toward a Judy, but after seeing my new Marzocch at Pricepoint for $179 and reading some very favorable reviews, I made the leap. I am still playing with getting it dialed in right..what a breath of fresh air having adjustments that actually DO something too! I have only test ridden bikes with Manitous so don't have an opinion there..but from a quality looks, construction, and ride perspective..I'd have to go with the Marzocchi over R/S!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Since I ride XC mainly, my biggest concern is weight. The SL off the showroom floor is 2.9 pounds and is plush, plush, plush if set up right. I then went and put the Total Air System in and shaved a 1/2 pound and added 1" of Travel. Now I have the lightest and greatest fork available. There is nothing lighter.
WINNER: Judy SL
The Bombers rule!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I've ridden a Rock Shox Mag 21 for years and we lived a happy life until a brutal crash killed my dearly beloved Mag 21.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomber z2 is almost perfectly made .It function very nice in technical trails.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Having had both judy sl and z2's there can be only one! Bomers are far better forks in adjustment, plushness, stiffness, build quality, seal tecnology, and virtualy maintanance free (which is nice in rainy Wales). And there european so there!END OF,NUFF SAID
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Its built by Rock Shok
WINNER: Judy SL
old judy-cool
WINNER: Judy SL
Tried a Z2 the other day. Threw my Judy into the trash can. Rockshox likes making stuff that seems more at home in Toys R Us than on the trails, cheap, flimsy, nasty, clattery and spit to work on. The manual bites, the customer service bites, did I mention that the Z2 is stiffer, plusher, higher quality, easier to tune and more controllable? Z2 looks a bit retro, but who cares?
WINNER: Bomber Z2
The Z-2 kick Judy's and manitous ass any day
WINNER: Bomber Z2
The Z-2 kick Judy's and manitous ass any day
WINNER:
BOMBERS RULE DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
The z2 just keep blowing up becouse the seals are not good enough.rockshok boxxers (RULE)
WINNER: Other
The z2 just keep blowing up becouse the seals are not good enough.rockshok boxxers (RULE)
WINNER: Other
The other forks feel like foam rubber boingers, the ZOKE?? Just ride one, the truth is out there.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomer is the only way to go or manitou cause judy rock shocks suck
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomer is the only way to go or manitou cause judy rock shocks suck
WINNER: Bomber Z2
GO MARZOCCHI OT GO HOME! My 2000 Z2 Atom 80 is THE best component I have EVER purchased, period!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
GO MARZOCCHI OT GO HOME!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
z2 all the way
WINNER: Bomber Z2
One word. MARZOCCHI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Judy SL. I have raced it for 3yrs w/ no trouble. I have maintained it well and it still opererates as new. I prefer air/oil, however, for spring oil this is a good shock. I have had very bad exp w/ Marzok. I sent a Z2 back to the factory three times. Only two months old and the shock is still broken. Marzok management in Valencia is a joke.
WINNER: Judy SL
Bomber all the way
WINNER: Bomber Z2
A WORD ON FORKS: I'm a Manitou freak.I own a Magnum myself,and everyone I know that owns a Manitou has been happy with them,they have supreme control in the rough over most other forks--don't buy the Mars with the 3-pc. carbon lowers though,because they flex way too much.I love Microlube--why didn't the other guys think of this first?I recommend the Magnum R,SX,SX-R,SX-LT,all X-Verts,and the Mars-1.The new Millenium long-travel fork is a match for any Marzocchi--high praise indeed,but it's REALLY expensive and only 1000 were made. I have to admit that Marzocchis are kickass forks.Beefy and plush(and made in Italy too!),these forks are a trailrider's godsend.They are a little heavy,but they get the job done.Marzocchi has a model for every budget,and all are good.The only thing I don't like about them is that you have to dissasemble the fork to maintain it--minor issue. Rock Shox are okay but are overrated,particularly the harsh-riding and high-maintenance SID.The only ones I can recommend are the Judy XC,SL, and 100,the new Psylo,and maybe the Jett Race.But the other 2 manufacturers have it all over these forks. Skip RST.For the most part these low-end elastomer forks are poor products that are woefully behind the times.Only their more expensive forks are any good,and they're surpassed by the forces of M&M(Manitou and Marzocchi).Avoid Sync and Suntour's crappy stuff at all costs!! Bottom line:M&M RULE!!!BUY THEM!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
A WORD ON FORKS: I'm a Manitou freak.I own a Magnum myself,and everyone I know that owns a Manitou has been happy with them,they have supreme control in the rough over other most other forks--don't buy the Mars with the 3-pc. carbon lowers though,because they flex way too much.I love Microlube--why didn't the other guys think of this first?I recommend the Magnum R,SX,SX-R,SX-LT,all X-Verts,and the Mars-1.The new Millenium long-travel fork is a match for any Marzocchi--high praise indeed,but it's REALLY expensive and only 1000 were made. I have to admit that Marzocchis are kickass forks.Beefy and plush(and made in Italy too!),these forks are a trailrider's godsend.They are a little heavy,but they get the job done.Marzocchi has a model for every budget,and all are good.The only thing I don't like about them is that you have to dissasemble the fork to maintain it--minor issue. Rock Shox are okay but are overrated,particularly the harsh-riding and high-maintenance SID.The only ones I can recommend are the Judy XC,SL, and 100,the new Psylo,and maybe the Jett Race.But the other 2 manufacturers have it all over these forks. Skip RST.For the most part these low-end elastomer forks are poor products that are woefully behind the times.Only their more expensive forks are any good,and they're surpassed by the forces of M&M(Manitou and Marzocchi).Avoid Sync and Suntour's crappy stuff at all costs!! Bottom line:M&M RULE!!!BUY THEM!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I just bought a bomber and it kicks ass. I'm no expert, but I feel confident about my purchase after reading some of these ratings by more knowledgeable riders. Thanks
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bomber no question......
WINNER: Bomber Z2
If Rock shox and manitou are so good, how come they are copying marzocchi's "full leg as a damper" concept. How come rock shox went open bath, why don't cartridges explode anymore, who said screw weight, lets make 'em strong. ONE word. MARZOCCHI
WINNER: Bomber Z2
these are great bryan harman
WINNER: Bomber Z2
these are great
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
bomber forks all the way, their obviousely the best forks out there. Then I would have to say the manitou because judy's suck!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bombers are the best by far but strugling to find info on my Z3.5's
WINNER: Bomber Z2
id have to vote the judy sl because it is the toughest fork out out of these three.
WINNER: Judy SL
price, plushness, nuff said
WINNER: Judy SL
I like the Judy SL better but the Mach 5 ti is also another great suspension fork.
WINNER: Judy SL
Z2 ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Marzocchis forks are super plush and can realy take a beating.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I have ridden them all except the Bomber. I am on my 4th year with my first year generation Mach 5 TiSX, and I just rebuilt it this summer for the first time. I had a Manitou EFC for 2 years before that, and a Manitou 3 for 2 years before that. Manitou really knows how to make a fork that lasts. Rock Boy (the one from my shop) sucks. All praise Manitou!
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
Marzocchi rules!(except zokes)
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I have both a Bomber Z-3 QR-20 and a Judy, now with Total Air system. The Total Air system was a great improvement in performance, but I like the Bomber better - because I feel the Judy is much too flexible. You would not believe the handling difference of a fork that is solid, you point and go. The Z-3 is pretty heavy though. I weigh 210. If I was lighter I would probably prefer the Judy with an Air system, but because of my weight its the Bomber.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
This website iz good....................................
WINNER: Judy SL
Ride Judy but want Bomers
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Judy Race Rules more bang for the Buck.
WINNER: Other
GET A JUDY RACE
WINNER: Other
MARZOCCHI MARZOCCHI for a cushy cushy ride every time babe. :b
WINNER: Bomber Z2
rock shox is shit
WINNER: Bomber Z2
The Z2 is great. I had a Judy and it was good, but the Z2 is better.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Bombers r the best
WINNER: Bomber Z2
BOMBER Z2 AMAZING A MUST BE For DOWN HILL RIDERS , I've desinged a mountian bike nowhow can i get Mountain biking companies to buy my design ?
WINNER: Bomber Z2
this is easy .. has to be the Z2... no flex like rock crap... eassier set up for discs than manitou.. they are bullet proof and PLUSH... give the front end a secure feel.... i 'gave my judy race away .. what trash that thing was
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I ride a Cannondale with a Judy Race. Anyone like me who wants great performance out of a relatively inexpensive fork will vote Rockshox. They're light, have adjustable travel (63-80-100mm) and can be found for under 2 bills. Why waste money on anything else? (except a sid)
WINNER: Judy SL
It's plush, it works in every weather condition, but it's heavy.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
All these forks suck! They can only be used for XC with the exception of the mach 5. My choice of fork is the Monster T or a pair of boxxers
WINNER: Other
well I think that rst 281 are the best forks they bloody kick ass all the others compared to these are shit and bombers are the worst defo
WINNER: Other
Conociendola a la bomber z2 en una de las mejores suspenciones que pueden haber a bajo costo...tambien por su extrema rigidez ante los golpes extremos que tiene que soportar en un descenso duro.Yo pienso que la Bomber es la ganadora. Pero no creo que sea mejor que mi Lefty DLR (Cannondale).
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I own a 2000 Atom 80, have had a Atom Bomb previously, before that the Judy Sl and have tried a Manitou Sx .. BOMBERS RULE.. enough said.. don't be a weight weenie.. just take the weight and enjoy riding forever more! al their is too it! Bombers are more supple, and compress better than any fork out their.. you actually get your 80mm almost all the time instead of the Judy SL where you never get it and if you do you have to replace the cartidges in the fork that you just blew!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
OK, LETS GET THIS STRAIT PEOPLE! THE BEST FORK IS CLEARLY THE ROCK SHOX PHYLO RACE!!$$$## IT LEAVES ALL THESE SO CALLED HIGH PREFORMANCE FORKS SUCKING PIG SHIT!
WINNER: Other
Anything from Marzocchi KICK ASS!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
The Z2s are such a plush ride and easy to adjust. I have had no problems with them and have ridden them for two years, bulletproof!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
WHY IS THIS ONE ON ONE STILL UP...THESE FORKS ARE OLD!! PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY ANALYZED AND TESTED EACH ONE...WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO BUY ONE OF THESE? THEY WERE GOOD IN 97' BUT NOW...THEY'RE DATED...
WINNER: Other
Ummm, I own the Z.2 I would have to say that. They have come a long way in 4 years however. The '01 Psylo looks good, as well as the 01 X-vert. On the whole, travel+reliability has gone up while price and weight have come down. My fork leaks via right leg (seal) but it was the best at the time. . .
WINNER: Bomber Z2
me ment to vote fi Z2. ops.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
if you find riding to easy use a judy sl/mach5/other . That should make it nice and difficult.aight.
WINNER:
I'have a proflex 753 with fork Z2 Bomber... Really enjoy.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I would have to say the best shock out of these three would have to be the Judy SL. It hasd the all travel system so you can adjust it to fit whatever riding you do.
WINNER: Judy SL
Z-2 X-Fly '00
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Judy SL all the way- I was given the opportunity to try all 3 using my friend's bikes and Judy was the best. It is not only lighter but it has better damping. GO ROCK SHOX!!!!
WINNER: Judy SL
Marzocchi hands down, plush reliable italian made goodness! Easily adjustable, and reliable. Great feel, only draw back is they are noisy. The open oil bath is the cause of the noise, and most of the time you can't even hear it. Some people really dislike it, but it works great!
WINNER: Bomber Z2
WINNER: Bomber Z2
WINNER: Bomber Z2
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Marzocchi are the best. All bombers are top quality but may be a little expensive. If you spend over a grand on a bike which can be done easy, why not spent more and get some monster T's with 170mm of travel.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
I put a Bomber on my 12 foot unicycle, now speed bumps don't make me fall in parades.
WINNER: Mach 5 ti
i had rock shocks and they suck bomber all the way
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Definetly the bomber... cuz what can I say.. bombers are the best! also cuz I been riding my Z-2 forever and its never given up on me.
WINNER: Bomber Z2
Nothing beats a Marzocchi
WINNER: Bomber Z2
bombers rule
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Yeah baby! WINNER: Noleen Crosslink
WINNER: Other
Instead of comparing brands (because all of them have a diverse selection of models) I want to compare fork types. I'll limit it to four main types of forks: Telescope (including triple crown long travel), Headshock-single shocks, Linkage forks, the lefty. Telescope: Advantages include being the standard, true and tested, cheap, upgrade options, and easy to switch out when need a new one. Disadvantages, two shocks (often they have two coils, etc) make it a bit heavier than a fork needs to be, only the expensive versions really work well, two sliders and single crown make for a more noodle ride on lower end (sub $400) forks, internals can get complicated--hence full maintenance requires BA in MEch Engr, tuning spring rates (on non-air) and dampening can be a pain, if no external adjusters present. Summary, a fair design that is so commonly accepted it would *seem* to be the best, but this ain't no popularity contest. Headshock (C'dale): Advantages include single shock lightness, coolness factor, laterally stiff, could be easier to adjust (given the model that can be adjusted). Disadvantages, hard as hell to take off and put back on yourself, requires special headset, tools, possibly stem and service, and the adjustability/upgrades are hard to get at. Summary, unique shock makes for complex adjust/maintenance--requires PhD in Mech Engr. Linkage forks (Look, K2 Crosslink): Advantages include, due to single shock and dual crown, laterally stiff, fairly light, fairly inexpensive (for performance you get), external adjustments, easy as hell maintenance. Disadvantages, old versions had j-stroke (not an issue with the latest designs), not for downhilling, not for beginners, pivots points could be damaged (but replaced by owner in 5 minutes for a couple dollars). Summary, easy to maintain, adjustable, cross-country-only fork with a unique appeal that few have figured out. Lefty (C'dale): Adv, lightweight, fairly stiff, unique and coolness, travel ain't bad. Disadv, not as stiff as dual/triple crown, can only use disc brakes, expensive (right now), about as bad as telescope for stiffness and maintenance (internals). Summary, faddish forks can get pioneers killed or make them trailblazers--wait-n-see. Total Sum: I prefer the linkage fork after all is tried and tested. It simply works simple.
WINNER: Other
ehy marzoochi is the b
AND YOUR BIKES SU
Date: March 21, 2001
Jodax a downhiller from Toronto Ontario writes:
Date: March 20, 2001
mace a downhiller from canada,B.C., vancover north shore baby hellll yyeeaaaaa!!!!!!!!!! writes:
Date: March 12, 2001
farmanimal a cross-country rider from kansas city, missouri writes:
Date: March 11, 2001
Dimitris a weekend warrior from Athens,Greece writes:
ask yourself why it is the best!
Date: March 6, 2001
Todd a cross-country rider from Dallas, Tx writes:
Date: March 6, 2001
Adam a cross-country rider from JC MO writes:
Date: March 4, 2001
SHAZAM a cross-country rider from Port Hardy, B.C. Canada writes:
Date: March 1, 2001
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Date: February 27, 2001
Tim Johnson a weekend warrior from Roselle, IL writes:
Date: February 25, 2001
Greg a cross-country rider from MI writes:
Date: February 25, 2001
ed a cross-country rider from mi writes:
Date: February 22, 2001
Alan Rodriguez a cross-country rider from Monterrey, N.L. Mexico writes:
Date: February 20, 2001
Charles a downhiller from Canada writes:
Date: February 19, 2001
Alfonso a cross-country rider from Oakland, California writes:
Date: February 18, 2001
Cliff a weekend warrior from S.E. VA writes:
Date: February 18, 2001
Cliff a weekend warrior from S.E. VA writes:
Date: February 14, 2001
kyle houchen a weekend warrior from santa cruz writes:
Date: February 6, 2001
Andy a weekend warrior from usa writes:
Date: February 6, 2001
Jon a cross-country rider writes:
Date: February 6, 2001
Jon a cross-country rider writes:
Date: January 29, 2001
Dan a weekend warrior from England writes:
Date: January 27, 2001
kyle a weekend warrior from rothschild wi writes:
Date: January 26, 2001
Dominique Parent a cross-country rider from Quebec, Quebec, �Canada writes:
Date: January 25, 2001
Dave Hall a cross-country rider from hi writes:
Date: January 20, 2001
nate writes:
Date: January 17, 2001
matt brandsma a weekend warrior from B.C. Canada writes:
Date: January 10, 2001
vadim a weekend warrior from toronto ont canada writes:
Date: January 9, 2001
Philip F. a downhiller from San Francisco, CA writes:
Date: January 8, 2001
wx a weekend warrior writes:
Date: January 8, 2001
paul fletcher a cross-country rider from Uckfield, Easy Sussex ,ENGLAND writes:
Date: January 5, 2001
Alex Arias a cross-country rider writes:
Date: January 5, 2001
Cad a racer from Austin, TX writes:
Date: January 5, 2001
stephen cripps a weekend warrior from uk writes:
Date: January 5, 2001
stephen cripps a weekend warrior from uk writes:
Date: January 4, 2001
cameron a weekend warrior from canada writes:
Date: January 2, 2001
Kevin a cross-country rider from Hong Kong writes:
The truth !
Date: December 30, 2000
ivan a downhiller from ny, brooklyn writes:
Date: December 27, 2000
Dude a downhiller from Country writes:
Date: December 19, 2000
Brian a cross-country rider from MO writes:
Date: December 12, 2000
lizzy a downhiller from tn writes:
Date: December 6, 2000
leep......rides all diciplines from uk writes:
Date: December 4, 2000
andrew a cross-country rider from Calgary, Alberta, canada writes:
Date: December 3, 2000
max a downhiller from Copenhagen, Denmark writes:
The New Judys are super, but Manitou stil has the design upperhand.
Judy wins for the function.
Date: December 3, 2000
ash a cross-country rider from ma writes:
Date: November 29, 2000
SC Bullit a downhiller from Bay Area, CA writes:
Date: November 28, 2000
Clint a sicknut a downhiller from Australia MATE!!! writes:
but it should for the price that i paid for em!!! Stuff this up to 100mm travel wow! who cares its lame 4 anything else but lame TARGET BIKES!!!!!! And its true ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Go WHITE BROTHERS ALL THE WAY!!!
Date: November 28, 2000
Clint a sicknut a downhiller from Victoria writes:
Date: November 23, 2000
Peter a weekend warrior from Earth writes:
Date: November 21, 2000
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Date: November 21, 2000
Craig McLeod a cross-country rider from England, Middlesbrough writes:
Date: November 19, 2000
David Santos a cross-country rider from Porto de M�s - Portugal writes:
Date: November 18, 2000
Igor Nikolaeva a downhiller from NY writes:
Date: November 18, 2000
Chris Johnson a weekend warrior writes:
Date: November 16, 2000
MICHAEL REICHOW from USA writes:
Date: November 11, 2000
@$$ PIGY a racer from ofallon missouri writes:
Date: November 11, 2000
Lawwill, Donn a downhiller from La Mesa, CA, 91942 writes:
Date: November 9, 2000
Ben Lonsdale a weekend warrior from The great trails of Oz writes:
Date: November 6, 2000
David a weekend warrior from San Francisco writes:
Date: November 2, 2000
Un-Important a cross-country rider from San Diego, California, USA writes:
Date: November 1, 2000
Tom a weekend warrior from Winthrop, MA writes:
Date: October 30, 2000
Ron Schuman a cross-country rider from Colorado Springs, CO writes:
Date: October 30, 2000
Jon Jones a cross-country rider from usa writes:
Date: October 28, 2000
BoBO a cross-country rider from Belgium writes:
I replaced her by a Manitou SX Ti: for about 4 months this fork worked the way you can expect from a high end XC fork. Then trouble started and Manitou's service really sucked big time. Sick and tired of going through all this hassle to get my fork back to life I got rid of the SX Ti and replaced it with a Bomber Z2 Light/Atom. Great XC fork: works very well, it's beefy looks give you a feel of confidence, is almost maintenance free, ... and it is European. If the Bomber Z2 can get you across the Alps, it will get you across any mountain. The Bombers can do with a little diet, but apart from that:
HOORAH FOR THE BOMBER
Date: October 25, 2000
lord caesar paredes a cross-country rider from cotabato city,philippines writes:
Date: October 24, 2000
lee watts a cross-country rider from wales,u.k. writes:
Date: October 23, 2000
Brad Golob a weekend warrior from WA writes:
Date: October 21, 2000
IVAN a cross-country rider from NY,brooklyn writes:
new judy-cooler
get it you'll be happy
Date: October 20, 2000
Willie a racer from Furriest Freelton writes:
Date: October 20, 2000
Anthony a racer from Kenora ON, writes:
Date: October 20, 2000
Anthony a racer from Kenora ON, writes:
Date: October 18, 2000
BOB MARLEY!!!! a downhiller from JAIMACA writes:
Date: October 17, 2000
carl walker a downhiller from canada writes:
Date: October 17, 2000
carl walker a downhiller from canada writes:
Date: October 16, 2000
MIKE a cross-country rider from Traverse City, MI writes:
Date: October 15, 2000
justin a racer from Coquitlam, BC writes:
botom out to much on me now i only use bomer.
Date: October 15, 2000
justin a racer from Coquitlam, BC writes:
botom out to much on me now i only use bomer.
Date: October 15, 2000
MrHanky a cross-country rider from nj writes:
Date: October 15, 2000
MrHanky a cross-country rider from nj writes:
Date: October 13, 2000
vbvb a downhiller from vbvb writes:
Date: October 12, 2000
Lizard Man a racer from Galopagos Islands (no, really, I am!) writes:
Date: October 12, 2000
alex goff a racer from harrison, az writes:
Date: October 10, 2000
joe a weekend warrior writes:
Date: October 10, 2000
SJ a weekend warrior from Upstate NY writes:
I've heard good stuff about White Bros. forks,but can we say FREAKIN' EXPENSIVE?Cannondale's Headshok and Lefty are good,but you have to get a Cannondale to get them,which means paying out the nose.
I feel that Rock Shox are overrated
Date: October 10, 2000
SJ a weekend warrior from Upstate NY writes:
I've heard good stuff about White Bros. forks,but can we say FREAKIN' EXPENSIVE?Cannondale's Headshok and Lefty are good,but you have to get a Cannondale to get them,which means paying out the nose.
I feel that Rock Shox are overrated
Date: October 9, 2000
Schoolio a downhiller from Stillwater, OK writes:
Date: October 7, 2000
Paulo a cross-country rider from chappaqua , N Y writes:
Date: October 7, 2000
Jim Maybee a cross-country rider from Salmon Arm BC writes:
Date: October 5, 2000
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Date: October 5, 2000
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Date: October 4, 2000
mike hunt a weekend warrior from Canada writes:
Date: October 3, 2000
Quintin Riddell a downhiller from New Zealand writes:
any way bombers rule
Date: October 3, 2000
matthew a downhiller from moraga writes:
Date: October 3, 2000
jim a weekend warrior from NY writes:
Date: October 3, 2000
Preston a weekend warrior from Mississippi writes:
Date: September 29, 2000
MIKE a cross-country rider from N.B.CANADA writes:
Date: September 29, 2000
Toberto the Better than Excellant a racer from The Southeast-MidAtlantic writes:
Date: September 29, 2000
Marc Shostek a downhiller from Alberta writes:
Date: September 27, 2000
Walt a cross-country rider from Wilson, Wy writes:
Date: September 20, 2000
Jimmy a downhiller from Germany writes:
Date: September 19, 2000
brad magree a weekend warrior from Sydney Australia writes:
Date: September 18, 2000
Sir crash a Lot a cross-country rider from AZ writes:
Date: September 18, 2000
Tim cooper a weekend warrior from Loughborough writes:
Date: September 17, 2000
Noelle a cross-country rider from Memphis, TN USA writes:
Date: September 16, 2000
turbo a racer from Moon writes:
the best? marzocchi !!!!
Date: September 15, 2000
MTB Moe a cross-country rider from Northern California writes:
Date: September 12, 2000
matt hansen a cross-country rider from Comox Vancouver island b.c canada writes:
Date: September 12, 2000
Rhys Edwards a downhiller from England, Glous writes:
Date: September 6, 2000
farm animal a weekend warrior from kc,mo writes:
Date: September 6, 2000
Greg a cross-country rider from Colorado Springs writes:
Your wallet will thank you later.
Date: September 2, 2000
Nick a weekend warrior from Moscow writes:
Date: August 31, 2000
Chris a downhiller from Scotland writes:
Date: August 31, 2000
Craig a racer from england writes:
Date: August 29, 2000
Enzo Agustin Meloni a downhiller from Argentina writes:
Date: August 28, 2000
Joe a cross-country rider from Montreal, Qc writes:
Date: August 28, 2000
da gak attack a racer from BIKE COUNTRY writes:
Date: August 28, 2000
Huggies Supr�me a downhiller from Canada - Qu�bec writes:
Date: August 28, 2000
Kevin a weekend warrior writes:
Date: August 28, 2000
hmmmm a cross-country rider from hmmmm writes:
Date: August 27, 2000
Andy Nottestad from Boise, ID writes:
Date: August 24, 2000
rudy chenks a weekend warrior from england writes:
Date: August 24, 2000
rudy chenks a weekend warrior from england writes:
Date: August 22, 2000
Alessandro a weekend warrior from Italy writes:
Bye Alex
Date: August 20, 2000
mike a downhiller from NY writes:
Date: August 20, 2000
Dean Cho a cross-country rider writes:
Date: August 19, 2000
Joe Smith a cross-country rider writes:
Date: August 18, 2000
Jeremiah a downhiller from Westminster, CO writes:
Date: August 17, 2000
Dan a cross-country rider writes:
BOMBERS ARE JUST BETTER
WHY WOULD YOU RIDE ANYTHING ELSE
Date: August 17, 2000
Dan a cross-country rider writes:
BOMBERS ARE JUST BETTER
WHY WOULD YOU RIDE ANYTHING ELSE
Date: August 17, 2000
Dan a cross-country rider writes:
BOMBERS ARE JUST BETTER
WHY WOULD YOU RIDE ANYTHING ELSE
Date: August 17, 2000
Steve a downhiller from CANADA writes:
Date: August 17, 2000
pablo honey a racer from jerusalem writes:
Date: August 16, 2000
Allen Wale a weekend warrior from canada writes:
Date: August 15, 2000
JoJo a cross-country rider writes:
Date: August 15, 2000
Timmy a cross-country rider writes:
Date: August 14, 2000
Brad a weekend warrior writes:
Date: August 10, 2000
K2 Noleen a racer writes:
Date: August 10, 2000
DiRT a cross-country rider from USA writes:
Date: August 9, 2000
PAV MAN a downhiller from usa mich writes: