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Submitted by
Thrillseeker123
a Cross Country Rider
from Buford,GA
Date Reviewed: July 28, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Bull Mountain | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | REI | | Strengths: | Brakes are good when they are working | | Weaknesses: | Needs big improvement...after 5 mounts problems started to show. Reservoir cap got busted on the front first then on the rear it's sucked. I was on the trail and need to ride next 8 miles only on one brake. | | Bike Setup: | Stock K2 Zed 4.0 | | Bottom Line: | Brakes are o.k. as I said when they are working but that's about it... to many problems! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
DC
a Weekend Warrior
from BC
Date Reviewed: July 23, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Pidherny | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | Northern Hardware | | Strengths: | None | | Weaknesses: | Consistency, power, pad life, basically everything you want in a good set of brakes. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano XT (2007), Hayes HMX-1, Juicy 7's (which replaced my Soles) and various V's. | | Bike Setup: | 2007 Norco Six 3, ODI's, Avid Juicy 7's, DMR Headstock stem and V12 pedals. | | Bottom Line: | These brakes weren't too bad in the beginning but they were nowhere as strong or consistent as my XT's with 6" rotors on my other bike. They quickly got worse and provided inconsistent performance with severe fading on moderate downhill runs. I recently replaced them with the Juicy 7's and the improvement is night and day. If you have these on your bike look to replace them with something else. My Hayes HMX-1 cable discs were at least as strong and far more consistent. The pad life (although subjective) was discouraging with less than 2 months between pad changes (by constrast my XT's are still going strong in the same conditions).
Bottom line: Not recommended for any style of riding due primarily to their inconsistent performance. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dlyrdr
a Weekend Warrior
from Fort Collins, Co. USA
Date Reviewed: July 23, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Evening ride around Horsetooth | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | Lee's Cycle | | Strengths: | Pretty good for the first 4-5 months | | Weaknesses: | Brake failure without warning!!! Difficult to bleed. Company is impossible to work with. | | Similar Products Used: | First hydraulic setup, came on bike factory | | Bike Setup: | '07 GF Tassajara, Manitou 100mm fork no other mods | | Bottom Line: | Front brake failed without warning! I thought it just needed to be bled, but I couldn't get the bleed kit to work very well. Took it to the shop, still didn't work. Waited a month for a lever from Hayes, and didn't fix the problem. Lee's cycle was great and just replaced the front brake with a Juicy five. Seems to working 10 times better than Hayes ever did, despite a little bit more squealing. Basically, these brakes worked okay for the first bit and then became a serious safety liability! Stay away from these brakes! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
STEVENSAN
a Cross Country Rider
from BC
Date Reviewed: July 23, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | came with bike | | Strengths: | they protect the shifters | | Weaknesses: | Poor stopping power,pain to bleed and the screw that tightens it to the handle bars didn`t really tighten. The fluid medium DOT 3, not the most user friendly stuff | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | kona hoss.dirt jumper forks | | Bottom Line: | They were adequate for the first few months, then they started to give me nothing but ploblems. I never knew for sure what was going to happen when I squeezed the levers. It was kind of like weak anti-lock brakes, they just kind of slowed you down. I didn`t have confidence in them going down big hills. I swapped them out with shimano BR-535s. It`s like night and day | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
kikapukikapu
a Weekend Warrior
from
Date Reviewed: July 15, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | The Hub - came stock | | Strengths: | Easy to adjust. Marginally better than good Vs. Reliable (Ie not needed much maintenance) | | Weaknesses: | They are ONLY just better than good Vs. Big descents seem to kill them (you'll need to adjust the pads at the bottom). Guessing they are pretty heavy. Everything stock on my Kikapu DLX seems heavy! | | Bike Setup: | Stock Kikapu DLX bar upgraded tyres and brakes. | | Bottom Line: | I knew these were one of the weak links on my bike, but it was a steal so I could accept an upgrade was coming. If they come stock you can live with them, but dont consider buying them on their own, even though they are cheap. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Deano the Machino
a Weekend Warrior
from brisbane qld australia
Date Reviewed: July 14, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | any that makes me happy | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Came stock | | Strengths: | Better than nothing at all i guess | | Weaknesses: | spongy,fiddly,noisy and inconsistent just to name a few | | Similar Products Used: | Dia comp tech 99 u brakes | | Bike Setup: | Basically stock 07 I-Drive 7 2.0 | | Bottom Line: | These were my first ever hydraulic disc brakes,i was really excited to harness the so called raw power of the hydraulic disc brake. I must admit i was more than a bit disappointed. I remember setting up my old u brakes on my mirra 540 air that ran rings around these brakes. The front ones are pretty good but the back ones seem a little bit soft and i dont see any pad adjustment at all. But apparently these brakes are pretty bad so im hoping the Avid Code 5s im buyin will give me that "holy **** these are powerful" feel i want so much :) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
MrSynthpop
a Weekend Warrior
from Southampton
Date Reviewed: July 11, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | any long distance | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | Stock on bike | | Strengths: | Stop you better than mechanical units and works in the wet unlike v brakes, cheap and relatively cheerful | | Weaknesses: | Noisy, need to clean and adjust fairly often to reduce the noise, boils if you hammer it downhill, not all that great compared to high end hydraulics, | | Similar Products Used: | Avid BB5s, Tektro IO, lots of cheap V's, friends Magura Martas (nice) | | Bike Setup: | Mounted on my Hardrock with Marzocchi GF2 fork and Deore/xt throughout. | | Bottom Line: | Not a bad set of budget hydraulics and better than the lower/medium end mechanical systems, demands care and attention, not great for anything other than XC/trail work and don't expect to be doing much downhill before you cook them. Modulation is iffy at first but improves with adjustment and care. They work but don't buy if you are too lazy to maintain them, seem to get really poor reviews as people get them with their entry level bikes and then moan when they have to put some effort in. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
lebikerboy
a Weekend Warrior
from North Van
Date Reviewed: June 23, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | There aren't any. | | Weaknesses: | Power, modulation, reliability, you name it and the So1e hasn't got it. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano,Avid,Magura, etc. | | Bike Setup: | 2006 Norco Fluid 2, which is my wife's bike. | | Bottom Line: | When we purchased this bike for my wife the only component on the bike that I was concerned about was the brakes. My concern was justified. I've never seen a set of brakes that were crappy right from the start and definitely didn't get any better. Luckily my LBS is a good one so they swapped out the So1e's for some Shimano's and now life is good.
For anyone who says these are good brakes (and I know there's a few reviews to that effect), can you show me one decent 2008 bike where they've been spec'd as OEM? | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a Downhiller
from winnipeg, mb, canada
Date Reviewed: June 16, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | woodcock cycleworks | | Strengths: | good for beginners, as i progressed i realized how bad these brakes are | | Weaknesses: | squeak like a mother, just slow you down they dont stop you | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | kona scrap w/ pike | | Bottom Line: | if this comes stock on your bike try to make it one of the first things you upgrade.
whatever you do don't upgrade to these brakes | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew
a Weekend Warrior
from Moscow, Russia
Date Reviewed: June 1, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | From forest on grandmas and dogs | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Velomir | | Strengths: | They looks like they are real. | | Weaknesses: | When you try to brake - they moan. or Squeal - pick up what bests. Afrer year they screams the same. Every time BEFORE ride you have to test all screws on it. else - prepare to crawl to a hospital AFTER. oh. they tend to die suddenly. | | Similar Products Used: | Large number of V's - they were better! | | Bike Setup: | Atom FR3 '2005 (Atom is kinda Russian like brand - at least the bikes has not sqiuare weels) | | Bottom Line: | In early spring of 2007 i came to a bicycle shop. Sale!! sale!!! You can get a disk-hydro-brakes full suspension bike just for 500 USD! We tried to sell it for 1000, but none was so stupid for a two years. Maybie, you will be the that poor-man trying to get a bike looks-like-real? Of course, it was not told, but it was the plot of salesman.
After having several crashes of old merida fireball's ('2000) brakes, wheels, rear suspension, - i expected that nothing can be worse.
(Atom Fr3 looks like Iron Horce Ignition, but with sram 5 - sram7 shifters, and our hero - hayes sole.)
After 2 months, my rear brake went off. When i looked close on this system, i guessed that screw in lever lost its position. OK, after working on dying merida, it was easy deal. A PRECISION screwdriver helped a lot.
A week later, 100 Km after. Same problem. Damn! why do i have to carry a special screwdriver to fix my bike ewerywhere?
Soon, i realized that one screw was only top of an iceberg...
From a second day of usage, the brakes started to produce a lots of noise. I cannot pick correct word. Seems like you had run ower a hedgehog, it lasts on your weels, when you ran ower a doesen of squerrels. Add a kitten for taste.
Maybie, if you get old grandma's car, made in 1970's which stood in a garage for all years, the braking sound will be the same... when it do some work.
When you have a car, it can take some KM (10-20) to make brakes work without a noise.
I got alcohol 70%. After an hour riding, the brakes noise came back. I got 100% isopropyl alcohol. And won another hour.
Changed pads. after a day, screams returned. It was puzzling me, but i left on these. It works? yes. Works better that old 2000-year tektro V's? NO! what-can-i-do? Vot-Ki-Nai-DU (russian). Will i find some vodka....- supply for my brakes? stupid idea. I Left it as is.
Rider with a presision screwdrewer set, wearing civil clothes (just not to look like an idiot, when brakes fails somewhere again and you hawe to walk home with helpless bike) with ISOPROPYL alcohol in his pockets... can you imagine it?
Screws. I had problems with screws on levers' fasteners and the regulation screw from 3rd month. on front and rear brakes. they all tend to unscrew.
sadly to say, i hadn't fallen off this bike at all. My brakes didn't allow me to run fast. So, what's the matter of failures? - i don't know.
A year had pased. 1500 Km on my odometer.
After a 3 months of well (3 of 5 points) work, my front brake started to... fade away. I press on lever. does not work. I press with a force. it creaks. speed? nothing generally changes. Some wild dogs was injured because of my brakes and big hills. Lucky, they haven't an advocat.
Somehow i got home... I get off front wheel... pressing the lever, i noticed strange behavior. left pad cames to right..
Stop! how does it do? in slow-motion, please... Mammy! mummy! ass-with-ears!! Left pad comes to right at a little angle. What does it mean? all the force you send on brakes is used not to stop the disk but to clasp "Free" one end of left pad to right.
Removing pads. unscrewed from right completely. This is it. Piston came wry. in some poit of it was 2.5 mm to opening. on other - almost 4 mm. The force brake can produse, just lost it way to work. Reasons? 1500 km... I had enough. Just decided not to get ANY hayes components at all. If they mae that so bad, i cannot rely on them.
Today i tried to bleed the system, to make sure that i did all my best.. To bleed the system i had to unscrew one nipple on the caliper... And it took wery, wery STRONG linking to caliper. Because of anti-ice reagents! I can only drill it off. Dead end. Dead for "Hayes So1e"
Anyway, tommorow i will spend all my year sawings on pair good brakes, juicy 5 or 7, i mean.
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You can ride it for 1-2-3 motnths, ONLY if you DO like your new bike. After what, you'll HAWE to get or Avid BB5 (funny, but they work MUCH better), or spend some lots of money on a real disk hydro brakes.
DO NOT buy it for any money, at least you're not a bike-bdsm fan! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Martin
a Weekend Warrior
from Quebec, Canada
Date Reviewed: May 25, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Came with bike | | Strengths: | Simple design for all I know | | Weaknesses: | Pads wear off easily, levers have to be constantly adjusted, adjustments to caliper must be made frequently | | Similar Products Used: | V-Brakes | | Bike Setup: | Norco Six 3 2006 Stock | | Bottom Line: | I've used these brakes for 1 year (meaning 1 summer of 4 months here in Quebec) on a light freeride bike, doing freeride (no light here). I weight 180 lbs and my bike roughly 43 lbs, total: 223 lbs to stop when needed, and theses brakes don't do the thing at all!
For the first year it was ok, didn't go fast so didn't have to brake all that much. But now starting my second year of use I find out that they need an awful lot of adjustments all the time. I even had to take a chairlift DOWN the mountain once because I didn't thrust them on the way down.
Invest a little more and spare yourself the trouble | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Daniel Sharpe
a Weekend Warrior
from Orillia
Date Reviewed: May 25, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Hardwood Hills | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Great stopping power. | | Weaknesses: | Rear brake has a tendency to make a chattering sound. | | Similar Products Used: | Hayes HMX-1 | | Bike Setup: | 06 Enduro | | Bottom Line: | I don't understand how some people here say these don't have stopping power. The only thing I can think of is they must have applied WD-40, or some other lubricant to their brake pads, or, the levers were not adjusted properly. I am 160lbs, on a 35b bike, and have never needed to use more than my pointing finger on both front and rear levers. For the price they are excellent. Of course, if you have money to blow, go buy Juicy's. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Payland
a
from Piraeus
Date Reviewed: May 22, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | their color is black...i think | | Weaknesses: | no stopping power | | Similar Products Used: | foot | | Bike Setup: | kona cowan | | Bottom Line: | i don't do much xtreme DH and stuff but these brakes nearly cost me days in the hospital.a friend gave me these for free to change my shimano m525 brakes..not for long.these brakes WONT STOP YOU!i pulled the levers with all my strength and with minimum speed,and they still counldnt stop me. S**T!!my shimano looked like 6-piston GRSXR 1000's brake to them.holy s**t!dont worth the money even if they are free! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mazekwon
a Weekend Warrior
from Saskatoon
Date Reviewed: May 5, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Came With Bik | | Strengths: | Good, Enough, well broke within a couple months | | Weaknesses: | Always having to adjust the lever, some people don't know this and i wouldn't of either, there is a 2mm hex key in the lever to adjust the position of the handle, if it bounces it losens up which brings it closer to the handle which in turn doesn't fully compress the calliper so that is why people often don't think there brakes are working. FYI, doens't change the fact that it sucks, and my line burst simply while using them | | Bike Setup: | Schiwnn Rocket Pro, Drop Off Triple, Manitou Rear shock, Mavic rims, WTB Raptor tires | | Bottom Line: | Adjustment is tedious, brakes are alright, depends on what you want to spend you could get better, and you probably should, after all brakes are VERY Important | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kyle
a Cross Country Rider
from USA
Date Reviewed: April 30, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | came stock | | Strengths: | they stop you, look alright I guess, none others | | Weaknesses: | these were my first discs, so when I first got them I was praising them. Now, the realization has dawned on me that these things are crap. They squeek real loud, you have to pull em to the bar to make yourself stop unless you are going real slow, and I dont weigh that much so thats saying something. They shudder pretty bad, which makes me really nervous( I think it is the brakes, if it is the headset i'm in trouble...). I am most likely going to upgrade. | | Similar Products Used: | V-Brakes | | Bike Setup: | Marin Palisades Trail, Marz MZ Race, Shimano LX rear derraileur , deore front, hayes sole | | Bottom Line: | Not worth it. Scary. I would say if you are doing really light XC riding, they would be okay. Not good for a heavier rider. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Denis
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney
Date Reviewed: February 19, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Fairly powerful when they work, have some modulation, cheap... | | Weaknesses: | Had the same problem as described by Robert Hamer! Firstly the bleeder plug of the rear brake went missing when my bike was being serviced by the bike shop causing all brake fluid to leak out and had to wait for components to be ordered in to fix problem.
Then 2 weeks later I was riding down a hill when suddenly without warning my front brake failed instantly and i lost all braking power from my front brake. Had to lock up rear brake and slide 20 metres to stop.
Definetely now will not recommend these brakes or any Hayes brakes.
Prior to these incidents, brakes were always loud and making a grinding, vibrating noise when braking. (These are new brakes remember). This is the reason why I initially took bike back to bike shop.
I have lost all confidence in these brakes. While they are powerfull when they work they can fail suddenly without warning - TAKE CARE. | | Similar Products Used: | V-Brakes and Cantilever Brakes | | Bike Setup: | Apollo Enduro '08 | | Bottom Line: | Came stock with bike. Don't rely on them, if you are doing serious cycling, these brakes won't cut it. Only for slow flat trails. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Robert Hamer
a Weekend Warrior
from Miami, FL USA
Date Reviewed: February 18, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Oleta | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$1000.00 | | Purchased At: | Came With The Bike | | Strengths: | When they work they work great. When they fail they collapse totally without warning | | Weaknesses: | I have had these for less than 1 month and both the front brake failed and the rear brake failed on seperate occasions. I was told that the master cylinder failed on the first one. The same failure appears to be the culprit again. I was also told that the people at Hayes said I was braking too hard. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Jamis Dakar stock out the door | | Bottom Line: | Run for the hills...maybe you should walk. I would not recomend these to anyone. When these brakes fail there can be no prior indication. Both brake failures resulted in off trail crashes on otherwise novice-intermediate trails of flat terrain. Hayes had the incredible audacity to tell the shop that I had used the brakes to hard which is an amazing thing given the distance I was from them at the time of the failure. They must have a crystal ball or a paid subscription to google earth. Both brake failures appear to be identical in nature (the bleeder plug on the lever falls out preventing compression at the master cylinder)
My shop repairs them for free and includes bandages which is a nice touch. Anyone have this type of failure?
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Submitted by
Jay Johnson
a Cross Country Rider
from texus
Date Reviewed: February 17, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | XC | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$300.00 | | Purchased At: | DJ Ryder | | Strengths: | Great stopping distance,worth the money. Great feel of the brakes and levers. Reccommend to all! | | Weaknesses: | Have to pull all the way into the bar | | Similar Products Used: | Hayes 9, hope mono m4, v's | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Hardrock 07 with marzocchi bombers | | Bottom Line: | If you are new to offroad biking these brakes are for you! I love them and i have been riding offroad for 6 years. These may be entry level disc brakes but they are brillant! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dylan thayer
a Weekend Warrior
from Burlington
Date Reviewed: February 5, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | MY DIRT JUMPS | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Came with bike | | Strengths: | Looks cool alright weight pretyy long lasting pads | | Weaknesses: | single piston noisy | | Similar Products Used: | hayes 9
avid code
couple others | | Bike Setup: | Azonic steelhead, azonic outlaw, dirty chrome cranks, hayes brake, Marz drop off 2 fork fireeye components | | Bottom Line: | good brake for the money but no to good | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
shiz shizz
a Weekend Warrior
from australia
Date Reviewed: January 18, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | bakyard | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | came with bike | | Strengths: | well they slow you down pretty quick and theyr not noisy | | Weaknesses: | they dont lock up even if u sqeeze real hard | | Bike Setup: | 2007 kona scrap-----SICK | | Bottom Line: | dont buy them there are better brakes on the market for the same price | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ammar
a Downhiller
from Lake Grove
Date Reviewed: January 6, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Diablo | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Purchased At: | Came with Bike | | Strengths: | good braking for about 2 years | | Weaknesses: | They need to be adjusted constantly, leak fluid all the time. | | Similar Products Used: | Avid Juicy 5 | | Bike Setup: | Giant AC, Full Custom FR/DH | | Bottom Line: | Well, these brakes came with my bike, and I initially had no problem with them. Keep in mind that I weight only 137 pounds. I even took these brakes too diablo for the whole day. Had no problems, until recently. Aftet about three years of use, something has gone wrong with the front brake, and it's gone to shiit. They can not lock up while going down hills, or even road riding! My old v-brakes worked bettter! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
nz downhiller
a Downhiller
from new zealand
Date Reviewed: December 16, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | vic park | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | trade me | | Strengths: | they have none at all | | Weaknesses: | every thing but mostly stopping power | | Similar Products Used: | avid bb5 | | Bike Setup: | gt chucker 1.0 with marzocchi drop off triples and sun rim singlen track | | Bottom Line: | not a very good brake no stopping power would rather have avid bb5 | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Grant
a Downhiller
from Albuquerque, NM, US
Date Reviewed: December 12, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | North Course | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | came with bike | | Strengths: | realitivly cheap, better than some v breaks | | Weaknesses: | Not enough stopping power, lack of adjustability, I weigh 210 lbs and they can't stop me for crap even on flats. | | Bike Setup: | Kona Hoss xt/truvative 100mm hardtail 6" discs | | Bottom Line: | These just aren't worth is I had mecanical 6" discs on my Giant and they had a deal more power than these. Don't buy them, unless ur riding the dirt road by the ditch, and if they come sotck on your bike upgrade ASAP! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
luke *********
a Downhiller
from barrington illinois USA
Date Reviewed: December 12, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | alpine/ | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | came stock on bike | | Strengths: | nothing it looks ok w/ the bfl lever witch is what i have, i getting code 5's and im putting them on my xc bike w/ 8 inch rotors so there a little more powerfull | | Weaknesses: | everything | | Similar Products Used: | rim brakes on my sisters trek 3700, walmart brakes avid bb5 | | Bike Setup: | 2006 specialized big hit 1, have some of theese and getting some in a couple weeks avid code 5's, super t or junior t, aznic strip, e 13 , crank bros 5050 fox van r nokian tires, pretty sweet ride | | Bottom Line: | the suck dont buy em unless your doing xc riding and you dont have enough money to but juicys | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney, Australia
Date Reviewed: December 11, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Purchased At: | came with bike | | Strengths: | Better in the wet than V's | | Weaknesses: | everything, no power at all. My old no name V's on non straight wheels stop better in the dry.
Need adjustment all the time | | Similar Products Used: | none first discs I've had | | Bike Setup: | Stock 2007 Kona Scrap | | Bottom Line: | They are crap and don't stop you when going down hills.
Upgrade as soon as you can. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
mr. t
a Weekend Warrior
from n. van b.c.
Date Reviewed: November 24, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | all | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Purchased At: | my freinds | | Strengths: | thanks to these brakes i am now the worlds fastest rider seeing as they take about 3 hours to get you stopped | | Weaknesses: | never work and need constant adjustment not to mention lack of modulation but its not like your going to need it because all you can do is slam the levers to the bars and hold on for dear life | | Similar Products Used: | hayes 9,mag,mx3 juicy 7 | | Bike Setup: | my freinds kona scrap | | Bottom Line: | me and my freinds often ride each others bikes and i was riding my friends scrap when i went to reach for the brake lever nothing happend??? the same day the same friend was riding my bike and grabs the front brake then goes flying foreward and sacks himself on the stem and then comes up to me and says how are your brakes so good??? my brakes arnt even that good (i have mx3s witch are the worst brakes ever besides soles)due to thisand my friends constant anksting over these things (constant adjusting ,bleeding and one time the thing even blew up on him)i am going to only recomend them to people who get their pleasure from sacking them selfes on other peoples stems and people who want to see what its like riding brakeless | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Tyrone Rutherford
a Downhiller
from Dorchester,Dorset, England
Date Reviewed: November 18, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | George n Zippy (Balndford Bike Park) | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Came with Bike | | Strengths: | Great Stopping Power, My front brake has 8" disc and it stops very quickly, if i put on both brakes at the same time as hard as i can the rear 6" disc will lock up but the 8" font disc stops me fast and with no lock ups | | Weaknesses: | 6" disc brake no so good and bleeding them isnt great fun seriously hard work | | Bike Setup: | Felt Straight Shot, Marzocchi Z1 Drop Off 4, WTB Speed Disc xl rims with Felt hubs. | | Bottom Line: | For the money great brakes, if you want cheap hydrolic brakes then go for these although the 8" disc are better
There are alot better hydrolic brakes out there and i would suggest you to buy them if you have more money | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ywain ap Rhys
a Weekend Warrior
from UK
Date Reviewed: October 8, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Roydon Wood | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Cycle Experience | | Strengths: | I would have said "Value" but..... | | Weaknesses: | not when the things are so crap that you have to go out and buy another pair immediately afterwards cos the Sole is so crap. | | Similar Products Used: | My first discs, so only Vs | | Bike Setup: | Giant Trance 3 | | Bottom Line: | Hayes Sole came with the bike and worked fine when I tested it however since then it's shat the bed. The rear one's fine, but the front just doesn't have the power. It's pretty sketchy when you're hammering down a hillside and have to stop at the bottom when you hit the fronts and nothing really happens. It's weird cos the back one works fine when I hang my ass over the back wheel to make it grip. My single speeder has LX v-brakes and levers and that works far better than Hayes Sole discs.
I'm changing to some Juicy5s as soon as I can afford it.
Don't waste your money on them. If you're buying a bike with them on, either;
A: don't buy it
B: include new brakes in your budget.
Who should buy this? No one. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lloyd
a Cross Country Rider
from Victoria, AU
Date Reviewed: October 8, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Ruffey Lake Freeride | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Purchased At: | Super Cycles | | Strengths: | Doesn't lock up often when doing steep dirt trails. | | Weaknesses: | It locks up when it shouldn't. | | Similar Products Used: | - | | Bike Setup: | 2005 Brodie Cyclone with standard setup | | Bottom Line: | Good only for XC riding | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Robert Taylor
a Downhiller
from Oxford
Date Reviewed: September 13, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Fort William | | Duration Pro |
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